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> <channel><title>Comments on: PREFAB FRIDAY: Resolution 4 Mountain Retreat</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/</link> <description>Future-forward design for the world you inhabit</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:00:12 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: some guy</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-76681</link> <dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:55:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-76681</guid> <description>After reading through the comments here, I agree wholeheartedly that not building anything at all is definitely green. But we&#039;re not a suicidal race. We need places to live, and this requires usage of natural resources. The job of the progressive architect is to create good design while simultaneously doing the least amount of harm possible and meeting the client&#039;s demands (for square footage, finishes, etc).Major companies providing cookie-cutter houses for people certainly don&#039;t care about the environment. It&#039;s up to architects to try and set a better example for the general public to strive for. These houses may be expensive, but as with many other things, there is a trickle-down effect once people start to see how the rich live their lives. Eventually it reaches the mainstream and normal, middle-class people will become familiar with things like FSC-certified wood and solar hot water heaters. Just remember, indoor plumbing and electricity were once considered luxuries. A so-called &quot;green&quot; lifestyle is mainly for the rich (or indigenous people, which is an interesting paradox). But society as a whole will start to take environmental issues more seriously in the next 100 years. They will have no other choice.I think people who have a problem with this house have a problem with the term &quot;green&quot; in general. Nothing about humanity these days is green or sustainable - those terms are complete misnomers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading through the comments here, I agree wholeheartedly that not building anything at all is definitely green. But we&#8217;re not a suicidal race. We need places to live, and this requires usage of natural resources. The job of the progressive architect is to create good design while simultaneously doing the least amount of harm possible and meeting the client&#8217;s demands (for square footage, finishes, etc).</p><p>Major companies providing cookie-cutter houses for people certainly don&#8217;t care about the environment. It&#8217;s up to architects to try and set a better example for the general public to strive for. These houses may be expensive, but as with many other things, there is a trickle-down effect once people start to see how the rich live their lives. Eventually it reaches the mainstream and normal, middle-class people will become familiar with things like FSC-certified wood and solar hot water heaters. Just remember, indoor plumbing and electricity were once considered luxuries. A so-called &#8220;green&#8221; lifestyle is mainly for the rich (or indigenous people, which is an interesting paradox). But society as a whole will start to take environmental issues more seriously in the next 100 years. They will have no other choice.</p><p>I think people who have a problem with this house have a problem with the term &#8220;green&#8221; in general. Nothing about humanity these days is green or sustainable &#8211; those terms are complete misnomers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hugues</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-51956</link> <dc:creator>Hugues</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 11:05:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-51956</guid> <description>How wide is the house?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How wide is the house?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rmgott</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-49383</link> <dc:creator>rmgott</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:32:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-49383</guid> <description>A query for D. Chase Martin regarding his posting mentioning the price of prefabricated modular homes :  Can you
give me the name of the firm you mention, and do they offer modern style prefab options ?  Thanks so much.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A query for D. Chase Martin regarding his posting mentioning the price of prefabricated modular homes :  Can you<br
/> give me the name of the firm you mention, and do they offer modern style prefab options ?  Thanks so much.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: a parks</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-48341</link> <dc:creator>a parks</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-48341</guid> <description>MSnyder,Ha ha.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSnyder,</p><p>Ha ha.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MSnyder</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-46326</link> <dc:creator>MSnyder</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:24:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-46326</guid> <description>Lovely!  We are an older couple moving to Pa. We would like to see homes in the 2,500 to 3,000 sq. ft..  We like colonial style with a three car garage.  Can you send us some of your examples?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely!  We are an older couple moving to Pa. We would like to see homes in the 2,500 to 3,000 sq. ft..  We like colonial style with a three car garage.  Can you send us some of your examples?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: d.Chase Martin</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-44047</link> <dc:creator>d.Chase Martin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:20:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-44047</guid> <description>a dose of reality
Posted by d. martin-www.martinlanealloy. on 4/23/2007 8:48:00 PMWhile vice president of a New York state modular mfg. and as an architect and industrial designer, I take respectful exception to the casual manner in which $200 per square foot is tossed about as a terrific savings. Unfortunately, all the well intended (not to mention very talented) architects who have taken up this most recent fad of the semantically challenged &quot;pre-fabricated home&quot;, have entirely missed the point, and gloss over the fact of relatively little, if any, savings in cost or time of their models. Our modulars consistently sold for $85 - $125 per square foot, and were delivered to site within eight weeks of order. The strategies with which the process realizes such extraordinary savings, cannot be learned in a twenty-five page primer. I urge all such designers to engage a more serious and professional attitude; one commensurate with the enormous potential of concept. Failing that, this most recent interest in this methodology is once again doomed to be shelved for another ten years.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a dose of reality<br
/> Posted by d. martin-www.martinlanealloy. on 4/23/2007 8:48:00 PM</p><p>While vice president of a New York state modular mfg. and as an architect and industrial designer, I take respectful exception to the casual manner in which $200 per square foot is tossed about as a terrific savings. Unfortunately, all the well intended (not to mention very talented) architects who have taken up this most recent fad of the semantically challenged &#8220;pre-fabricated home&#8221;, have entirely missed the point, and gloss over the fact of relatively little, if any, savings in cost or time of their models. Our modulars consistently sold for $85 &#8211; $125 per square foot, and were delivered to site within eight weeks of order. The strategies with which the process realizes such extraordinary savings, cannot be learned in a twenty-five page primer. I urge all such designers to engage a more serious and professional attitude; one commensurate with the enormous potential of concept. Failing that, this most recent interest in this methodology is once again doomed to be shelved for another ten years.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michelle Tackabery</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-43998</link> <dc:creator>Michelle Tackabery</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:12:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-43998</guid> <description>I love these houses, but $200 a square foot is still not nearly affordble enough. The math makes that house $360,000, which doesn&#039;t touch the expense of the land . . . when is prefab ever really going to be affordable? It&#039;s just depressing, if you want to build modern and can&#039;t afford it. You&#039;re pretty much forced to buy a cookie cutter house.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these houses, but $200 a square foot is still not nearly affordble enough. The math makes that house $360,000, which doesn&#8217;t touch the expense of the land . . . when is prefab ever really going to be affordable? It&#8217;s just depressing, if you want to build modern and can&#8217;t afford it. You&#8217;re pretty much forced to buy a cookie cutter house.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob Ellenberg</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-43876</link> <dc:creator>Bob Ellenberg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-43876</guid> <description>The feature is of a house designed by the architects and it sounds as if it was a commission.  I doubt if the architects decided how much land to clear.  In addition to the reduced fire hazard, it is probably a rural location that required clearing for a waste disposal drain field.  I believe Inhabitats goal is to feature new, innovative, stylish homes with &quot;green&quot; features.  There is not one out there that is everyones ideal but this is a very nice home.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The feature is of a house designed by the architects and it sounds as if it was a commission.  I doubt if the architects decided how much land to clear.  In addition to the reduced fire hazard, it is probably a rural location that required clearing for a waste disposal drain field.  I believe Inhabitats goal is to feature new, innovative, stylish homes with &#8220;green&#8221; features.  There is not one out there that is everyones ideal but this is a very nice home.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bryce</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-43873</link> <dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:22:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-43873</guid> <description>Clark, it sounds like you&#039;re saying that building in any kind of undisturbed place is inherently not green. On an absolutist level, I would have to agree. Not building there is the greenest thing possible. That is not the reality of the world though. There are a number of things we could completely quit doing in order to be more green. Some are things we could do easily. Others are impractical, unlikely, or extremely implausible. So I guess I&#039;m asking, is there any way at all to build a green retreat?Personally, I love the look of that house. It&#039;s slick. If it is actually green as a building, then I&#039;m impressed. I do question the wisdom of clearing the amount of land they did. Though I would not be at all surprised if it was a contingency of obtaining insurance. The other thing that I think bears consideration is the use of the home. Is it purely a getaway that gets used occasionally, or is it more of a home that someone has built in the mountains?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark, it sounds like you&#8217;re saying that building in any kind of undisturbed place is inherently not green. On an absolutist level, I would have to agree. Not building there is the greenest thing possible. That is not the reality of the world though. There are a number of things we could completely quit doing in order to be more green. Some are things we could do easily. Others are impractical, unlikely, or extremely implausible. So I guess I&#8217;m asking, is there any way at all to build a green retreat?</p><p>Personally, I love the look of that house. It&#8217;s slick. If it is actually green as a building, then I&#8217;m impressed. I do question the wisdom of clearing the amount of land they did. Though I would not be at all surprised if it was a contingency of obtaining insurance. The other thing that I think bears consideration is the use of the home. Is it purely a getaway that gets used occasionally, or is it more of a home that someone has built in the mountains?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: clark</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-43869</link> <dc:creator>clark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:43:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-43869</guid> <description>pearl - on board with the idealism of a green prefab. i think it&#039;s great...and i think my comments about other architects lean more towards the idealism of multiple architects pursuing these issues on a collective front. my problem is it looks like a 100x100 ft. section of wilderness was cleared to create a, for lack of a better term, &quot;fabricated&quot; genus loci for the project...that in itslef should make the importance of a such an interesting project void. In other words their effots are great, but is it truly green when you affect an entire plot of undisturbed land?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pearl &#8211; on board with the idealism of a green prefab. i think it&#8217;s great&#8230;and i think my comments about other architects lean more towards the idealism of multiple architects pursuing these issues on a collective front. my problem is it looks like a 100&#215;100 ft. section of wilderness was cleared to create a, for lack of a better term, &#8220;fabricated&#8221; genus loci for the project&#8230;that in itslef should make the importance of a such an interesting project void. In other words their effots are great, but is it truly green when you affect an entire plot of undisturbed land?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Downtown Pearl</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-43859</link> <dc:creator>Downtown Pearl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:34:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-43859</guid> <description>cullen and clark - eeks!  what is it? in competition with these architects? is this the reason for all the nasty comments?  This is beautiful house perfect for the city dweller looking for country retreat.  Get a life please.  if you so hate this - what&#039;s your design?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cullen and clark &#8211; eeks!  what is it? in competition with these architects? is this the reason for all the nasty comments?  This is beautiful house perfect for the city dweller looking for country retreat.  Get a life please.  if you so hate this &#8211; what&#8217;s your design?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lorraine</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-43858</link> <dc:creator>Lorraine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:59:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-43858</guid> <description>This is simply beautiful. And yes, while it&#039;s not as green as NOT building, it&#039;s certainly preferable to the glut of 4,000-s.f.+  non-green vacation homes being built in my part of the country and elsewhere. Building will happen, period. Making every decision from size to siting and materials through the lens of environmental respect will go a long way toward making the world better.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is simply beautiful. And yes, while it&#8217;s not as green as NOT building, it&#8217;s certainly preferable to the glut of 4,000-s.f.+  non-green vacation homes being built in my part of the country and elsewhere. Building will happen, period. Making every decision from size to siting and materials through the lens of environmental respect will go a long way toward making the world better.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fuzz</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-43857</link> <dc:creator>fuzz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:47:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-43857</guid> <description>Cullen - why so bitter?  maybe you want one?  I know i do!
I often enjoy utopian visions of vacation tents in the woods...
wait, not really.  The house is compact, clean and gorgeous.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cullen &#8211; why so bitter?  maybe you want one?  I know i do!<br
/> I often enjoy utopian visions of vacation tents in the woods&#8230;<br
/> wait, not really.  The house is compact, clean and gorgeous.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: clark</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-43854</link> <dc:creator>clark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:28:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-43854</guid> <description>not to mention the amount of wilderness it looks like they destroyed to build this prefab. the first two pics tell that story. that being said, we should applaud the fact that Resolution: 4 architecture is attempting/making these strides. How many other architect/design firms are at least attempting this? I would like to know what other &quot;green&quot; materials and systems were used...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not to mention the amount of wilderness it looks like they destroyed to build this prefab. the first two pics tell that story. that being said, we should applaud the fact that Resolution: 4 architecture is attempting/making these strides. How many other architect/design firms are at least attempting this? I would like to know what other &#8220;green&#8221; materials and systems were used&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jared</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/comment-page-1/#comment-43853</link> <dc:creator>jared</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:26:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/04/20/prefab-friday-resolution-4-mountain-retreat/#comment-43853</guid> <description>the link to resolution: 4 architecture is coded incorrectly.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the link to resolution: 4 architecture is coded incorrectly.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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