Comments on: POND SCUM BIOFUEL TO POWER AIRPLANES http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/ Future-forward design for the world you inhabit Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:16:52 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: b colehttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-107523 b cole Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:08:23 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-107523 If you want to learn more about algae to jet fuel, you may want to check out this website:www,nationalalgaeassociation.com If you want to learn more about algae to jet fuel, you may want to check out this website:

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]]> By: Bio Texanhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-102423 Bio Texan Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:57:48 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-102423 Stinkin' previous post cut my links off at the knees.This company in El Paso, Texas is just weeks away from proving their their estimates of output are correct. They are talking about 100,000 gallons of fuel produced per acre per year. This quantity far exceeds any other estimates I've read about in biofuel production. I believe their process makes so much sense that every effort should be made to promote their methods with every company I can find that is looking into the change from fossil fuels to biofuels. Please view all the videos and materials provided below. I appreciate you time and consideration. Larry Pope Kyle, Texas 512-295-7476 Company:Valcent, El Paso, TX - Watch video on page http://www.valcent.net/s/Ecotech.asp?ReportID=182039 CNN Report on Valcent:UTube Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-GpX3oJFTU&feature=related Local Texas TV Report:UTube Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYURCN7o-Mk&feature=related Contacts: info@valcent.net Valcent Products Inc. Stinkin’ previous post cut my links off at the knees.

This company in El Paso, Texas is just weeks away from proving their their estimates of output are correct. They are talking about 100,000 gallons of fuel produced per acre per year. This quantity far exceeds any other estimates I’ve read about in biofuel production. I believe their process makes so much sense that every effort should be made to promote their methods with every company I can find that is looking into the change from fossil fuels to biofuels.

Please view all the videos and materials provided below.

I appreciate you time and consideration.

Larry Pope
Kyle, Texas
512-295-7476

Company:Valcent, El Paso, TX – Watch video on page
http://www.valcent.net/s/Ecotech.asp?ReportID=182039

CNN Report on Valcent:UTube Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-GpX3oJFTU&feature=related

Local Texas TV Report:UTube Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYURCN7o-Mk&feature=related

Contacts: info@valcent.net
Valcent Products Inc.

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]]> By: naturcomments™ - a fine example of corporate greening - air new zealand to fly its planes on wild algae biofuel « naturmama® - for natural lifestyles - official bloghttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-49962 naturcomments™ - a fine example of corporate greening - air new zealand to fly its planes on wild algae biofuel « naturmama® - for natural lifestyles - official blog Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:01:56 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-49962 [...] First posted at Inhabitat.com here  [...] [...] First posted at Inhabitat.com here  [...]

]]> By: to the two guys who know what they're talking abouthttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-49937 to the two guys who know what they're talking about Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:04:35 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-49937 Look up cultural eutrophication on Wikipedia. Algae in mass quantities, especially downstream from waste sources (eg pig farms) is an indicator of the death of that body of water. In excess, and this happens often from human activity, algae throws the system out of balance and often wipes it out entirely.This doesn't imply that taking all of the algae out of ponds and lakes to make jet fuel is a good idea, you've got to remember that anything in an ecosystem in too large a quantity is severely disruptive. And so before you go off and speak about how tight algae is and how we need to keep it all in the system, hold your tongue.From a biomass standpoint, using algae for fuel is a terrible idea, because the lifecycle of the nutrients needed to make algal blooms in those quantities is so large. That said, there exists a huge problem of excess nutrient runoff and it'd be nice to recoup some of that for productive means. With proper research and responsible action, airlines might be able to do a small bit of good. But if I thought they were going to do that, I'd be pulling a Lunsford Look up cultural eutrophication on Wikipedia. Algae in mass quantities, especially downstream from waste sources (eg pig farms) is an indicator of the death of that body of water. In excess, and this happens often from human activity, algae throws the system out of balance and often wipes it out entirely.

This doesn’t imply that taking all of the algae out of ponds and lakes to make jet fuel is a good idea, you’ve got to remember that anything in an ecosystem in too large a quantity is severely disruptive. And so before you go off and speak about how tight algae is and how we need to keep it all in the system, hold your tongue.

From a biomass standpoint, using algae for fuel is a terrible idea, because the lifecycle of the nutrients needed to make algal blooms in those quantities is so large. That said, there exists a huge problem of excess nutrient runoff and it’d be nice to recoup some of that for productive means. With proper research and responsible action, airlines might be able to do a small bit of good. But if I thought they were going to do that, I’d be pulling a Lunsford

]]> By: to the two guys who know what they're talking abouthttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-49933 to the two guys who know what they're talking about Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:50:45 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-49933 algae that appears as a result of downstream nitrogen deposits (eg pig farms) are NOT good for the environment. If found in abundance, algae is indicative of the future death of most living beings in that body of water. Look up cultural eutrophication on Wikipedia. Algae that accumulates from nitrogen actually uptakes so many nutrients that they sequester it from the rest of the organisms, destroying the ecosystem.This doesn't imply that taking mass quantities of algae from ponds for jetfuel is a good idea (it's vital to an ecosystem, in moderation). You ought to remember that too much of a good thing, in any ecosystem, is harmful. With tons of research and responsible harvesting, airlines could do some good, essentially by taking excess nutrients out of systems in the form of algal blooms. But if i thought that'd happen, I'd just be pulling a Lunsford. algae that appears as a result of downstream nitrogen deposits (eg pig farms) are NOT good for the environment. If found in abundance, algae is indicative of the future death of most living beings in that body of water. Look up cultural eutrophication on Wikipedia. Algae that accumulates from nitrogen actually uptakes so many nutrients that they sequester it from the rest of the organisms, destroying the ecosystem.

This doesn’t imply that taking mass quantities of algae from ponds for jetfuel is a good idea (it’s vital to an ecosystem, in moderation). You ought to remember that too much of a good thing, in any ecosystem, is harmful. With tons of research and responsible harvesting, airlines could do some good, essentially by taking excess nutrients out of systems in the form of algal blooms. But if i thought that’d happen, I’d just be pulling a Lunsford.

]]> By: kerry francishttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-49928 kerry francis Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:37:46 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-49928 Best anything that gets us away from fossil fuels whether they be kerosen , coal or gasoline. The greener we are the better it will for for the enviornment. Best anything that gets us away from fossil fuels whether they be kerosen , coal or gasoline.
The greener we are the better it will for for the enviornment.

]]> By: Marlinhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-49927 Marlin Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:32:21 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-49927 I think the idea might be good if the issue of agriculture runnoff can be addressed at the same time. Currently excess fertilizers are having a negative impact on fresh water by encouraging algae growth, which in turn, causes oxygen depletion. If mass quantities of algae are required for jet fuel, then the harvest of harmful algae can solve two problems at once. I think the idea might be good if the issue of agriculture runnoff can be addressed at the same time. Currently excess fertilizers are having a negative impact on fresh water by encouraging algae growth, which in turn, causes oxygen depletion. If mass quantities of algae are required for jet fuel, then the harvest of harmful algae can solve two problems at once.

]]> By: Vik Olliverhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-49923 Vik Olliver Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:16:39 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-49923 "An area the size of Switzerland" says Simon. Sounds scary. But is this larger or smaller than the amount of land that will be flooded or rendered unsuitable for human habitation by global warming from aircraft? “An area the size of Switzerland” says Simon. Sounds scary. But is this larger or smaller than the amount of land that will be flooded or rendered unsuitable for human habitation by global warming from aircraft?

]]> By: Tylerhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-49920 Tyler Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:21:11 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-49920 Daniel, I wanted to share my thoughts on your comment. While I completely agree that the removal of such a large quantity of biomass would severly damage any ecosystem, we have been "harvesting" algae for many years now for uses such as waste treatment and antibiotics. If the airline companies planned on collecting all the pond scum from around the globe, this project would be destroying the very ecosystems they were trying to protect. As you said, I can only imagine the amount of pond scum needed to power all of our aviation needs. I would hope that part of this project would be to develop a system where the required algae could be produced in an artificial system. Daniel, I wanted to share my thoughts on your comment. While I completely agree that the removal of such a large quantity of biomass would severly damage any ecosystem, we have been “harvesting” algae for many years now for uses such as waste treatment and antibiotics. If the airline companies planned on collecting all the pond scum from around the globe, this project would be destroying the very ecosystems they were trying to protect. As you said, I can only imagine the amount of pond scum needed to power all of our aviation needs. I would hope that part of this project would be to develop a system where the required algae could be produced in an artificial system.

]]> By: simonhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-49913 simon Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:44:57 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-49913 it was said in a study that so many thousands of square kilometres was required to power the whole industry, basically this area was equivalent to the size of switzerland it was said in a study that so many thousands of square kilometres was required to power the whole industry, basically this area was equivalent to the size of switzerland

]]> By: Jimhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-49911 Jim Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:30:00 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-49911 Wow, this is great. But if a demand is created for a byproduct that is not good practice. Then the demand will drive worse behavior. Does that sound right? Wow, this is great. But if a demand is created for a byproduct that is not good practice. Then the demand will drive worse behavior. Does that sound right?

]]> By: Shalinhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/comment-page-1/#comment-49910 Shalin Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:19:24 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/07/31/pond-scum-biofuel-to-power-airplanes/#comment-49910 Rock on! I really look forward to hearing more ideas on using algae to produce energy. One concern of mine is how much water it will take and how that will affect availability for humans and other animals/mammals of the land and sea.One issue with biofuels is that it requires much water... It seems better to use the waste products like corn husks or waste oil...--Shalin Rock on! I really look forward to hearing more ideas on using algae to produce energy. One concern of mine is how much water it will take and how that will affect availability for humans and other animals/mammals of the land and sea.

One issue with biofuels is that it requires much water… It seems better to use the waste products like corn husks or waste oil…

–Shalin

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