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> <channel><title>Comments on: PREFAB FRIDAY: ZIGLOO DOMESTIQUE</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/</link> <description>Future-forward design for the world you inhabit</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:52:41 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: griffariff</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-114965</link> <dc:creator>griffariff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:26:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-114965</guid> <description>In Canada we have more a more harsh climate than the climate that most of the container homes that I have seen on the net. This home is the best insulated that I have seen yet. I have an idea with regard to eliminating the wood framing and removing the need for SIP as well...If you were to weld 2&quot; vertical strips of steel between the top and bottom horizontal members of the outer container wall on standard 16&quot; centers, you could fill the corrugations with spray foam and then screw styrofoam sheets to the metal strips, apply a vapor barrier and then finish as desired with sheet rock or paneling or whatever. I haven&#039;t researched the specs yet, but I imagine if you chose the right combination of products, your should be able to easily reach R20. An outer finish of Supertherm would reduce thermal conduction in the summer.If allowances for plumbing and electrical are needed, then the strips could be replaced with U channel. Then you could apply the spray foam once the electrical and plumbing is in place. Thoughts???</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Canada we have more a more harsh climate than the climate that most of the container homes that I have seen on the net. This home is the best insulated that I have seen yet. I have an idea with regard to eliminating the wood framing and removing the need for SIP as well&#8230;</p><p>If you were to weld 2&#8243; vertical strips of steel between the top and bottom horizontal members of the outer container wall on standard 16&#8243; centers, you could fill the corrugations with spray foam and then screw styrofoam sheets to the metal strips, apply a vapor barrier and then finish as desired with sheet rock or paneling or whatever. I haven&#8217;t researched the specs yet, but I imagine if you chose the right combination of products, your should be able to easily reach R20. An outer finish of Supertherm would reduce thermal conduction in the summer.If allowances for plumbing and electrical are needed, then the strips could be replaced with U channel. Then you could apply the spray foam once the electrical and plumbing is in place. Thoughts???</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: michelle</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-76109</link> <dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:56:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-76109</guid> <description>Virgil, do you realize shipping containers have an incredibly long life span and that they&#039;re only trying to reuse them in other ways because there is a surplus of them? There&#039;s a surplus because it is cheaper to make new ones than ship around empty ones to where they are needed. Containers are build to with stand sea salt and other harsh elements. the container with not turn into a pile of rust if it is maintained properly; much the way you must maintain a regular house by residing it of repainting it.
use some common sense, architects wouldnt go through all the trouble of designing and building these things if they were just going to fall apart</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virgil, do you realize shipping containers have an incredibly long life span and that they&#8217;re only trying to reuse them in other ways because there is a surplus of them? There&#8217;s a surplus because it is cheaper to make new ones than ship around empty ones to where they are needed. Containers are build to with stand sea salt and other harsh elements. the container with not turn into a pile of rust if it is maintained properly; much the way you must maintain a regular house by residing it of repainting it.<br
/> use some common sense, architects wouldnt go through all the trouble of designing and building these things if they were just going to fall apart</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Virgil McAlpine</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-58119</link> <dc:creator>Virgil McAlpine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:33:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-58119</guid> <description>Soon the building will be a pile of rust and decay. Too bad for the owner.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soon the building will be a pile of rust and decay. Too bad for the owner.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: biscuit</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50486</link> <dc:creator>biscuit</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:46:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50486</guid> <description>I think this is great!  Congrats to the architect for using mundane materials in a new way!  I love the chain-link, and I love that he didn&#039;t paint all of the shipping containers- rather, they speak of their history.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is great!  Congrats to the architect for using mundane materials in a new way!  I love the chain-link, and I love that he didn&#8217;t paint all of the shipping containers- rather, they speak of their history.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Helen Eckard</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50367</link> <dc:creator>Helen Eckard</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:45:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50367</guid> <description>This is one of the ugliest homes I have ever seen.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the ugliest homes I have ever seen.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jean-Pierre El Asmar</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50320</link> <dc:creator>Jean-Pierre El Asmar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:26:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50320</guid> <description>Brilliant, reusing and recycling containers! the result is also pleasing. I would suggest the author presents this idea to the international competition on do yourself your house I think in Portugal. I really love this website.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant, reusing and recycling containers! the result is also pleasing. I would suggest the author presents this idea to the international competition on do yourself your house I think in Portugal. I really love this website.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christopher P.</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50309</link> <dc:creator>Christopher P.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 22:45:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50309</guid> <description>&quot;Hidden&quot; work (electric, plumbing, insulation, basement/foundation) factored by time+materialsX architect X 2 years of redesigns and rebuilds of &quot;protype&quot; = $180/sq.ft. vs. $250 to $500.   Sure, there are ingenious sweat-equity shelter solutions all over the world that rival &quot;real&quot; architecture. (Witness Simon Rodia&#039;s  Watts Towers historic site here in LA -- also not appreciated much at the time of its construction, 1925-1955.)  But get a grip, people! This concept is several cuts above dumpster diving!  And, as for &quot;harsh&quot;, look at Frank Gehry&#039;s house (1978) the  &quot;Deconstructivist/Post-Modern&quot; seminal work, that started the vogue in construction-site chic....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hidden&#8221; work (electric, plumbing, insulation, basement/foundation) factored by time+materialsX architect X 2 years of redesigns and rebuilds of &#8220;protype&#8221; = $180/sq.ft. vs. $250 to $500.   Sure, there are ingenious sweat-equity shelter solutions all over the world that rival &#8220;real&#8221; architecture. (Witness Simon Rodia&#8217;s  Watts Towers historic site here in LA &#8212; also not appreciated much at the time of its construction, 1925-1955.)  But get a grip, people! This concept is several cuts above dumpster diving!  And, as for &#8220;harsh&#8221;, look at Frank Gehry&#8217;s house (1978) the  &#8220;Deconstructivist/Post-Modern&#8221; seminal work, that started the vogue in construction-site chic&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bart</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50306</link> <dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:43:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50306</guid> <description>I&#039;d... like to see a bit more glass, I&#039;d paint the outside in other colors, but... I do admire the innovative way of building !!!
With the  buildingcodes overhere one almost needs a permit to change color of curtains, unfortunately.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d&#8230; like to see a bit more glass, I&#8217;d paint the outside in other colors, but&#8230; I do admire the innovative way of building !!!<br
/> With the  buildingcodes overhere one almost needs a permit to change color of curtains, unfortunately.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Martel</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50283</link> <dc:creator>Martel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 06:48:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50283</guid> <description>Won&#039;t he paint it? The way it looks now, I think this house will lower the prices of real-estate in the neighborhood. Kudos for the designer for using shipping containers, but this is not my favorite container project. Meanwhile, check out DeMaria&#039;s Venice Beach project:
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2007/05/even_more_conta.php</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won&#8217;t he paint it? The way it looks now, I think this house will lower the prices of real-estate in the neighborhood. Kudos for the designer for using shipping containers, but this is not my favorite container project. Meanwhile, check out DeMaria&#8217;s Venice Beach project:<br
/> <a
href="http://la.curbed.com/archives/2007/05/even_more_conta.php" rel="nofollow">http://la.curbed.com/archives/2007/05/even_more_conta.php</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: nothgiel</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50193</link> <dc:creator>nothgiel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:18:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50193</guid> <description>Great except fo the chain link, but thgats just my opinion</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great except fo the chain link, but thgats just my opinion</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50189</link> <dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:55:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50189</guid> <description>It looks like this house was a Hurricane Katrina victim! The overall design is pedestrian at best.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like this house was a Hurricane Katrina victim! The overall design is pedestrian at best.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richie</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50187</link> <dc:creator>Richie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:00:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50187</guid> <description>It&#039;s $180 a square foot because it&#039;s a STICK FRAME HOUSE within a shipping container shell ! There&#039;s all that wood framing all over the place. This seems kind of dumb when much less framing would have been necessary if Structurally Insulated Panels (SIP&#039;s) were used. Also... there&#039;s a ferro-concrete basement and a curved, wood frame, roof. Maybe the local building codes required that this approach was taken ?A better take on this 3 bedroom shipping container design is found at: www.lot-ek.com/ (click on &#039;buildings&#039; and then on CHK[Container Home Kit] The 4 wide container(3 bedroom) design there makes a lot more sense.Using SIP&#039;s internally, to provide insulation, walls, and a smooth surface is the way to go. I suggest a resounding NO to stick framing inside Shipping Container Designs !</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s $180 a square foot because it&#8217;s a STICK FRAME HOUSE within a shipping container shell ! There&#8217;s all that wood framing all over the place. This seems kind of dumb when much less framing would have been necessary if Structurally Insulated Panels (SIP&#8217;s) were used. Also&#8230; there&#8217;s a ferro-concrete basement and a curved, wood frame, roof. Maybe the local building codes required that this approach was taken ?</p><p>A better take on this 3 bedroom shipping container design is found at: <a
href="http://www.lot-ek.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lot-ek.com/</a> (click on &#8216;buildings&#8217; and then on CHK[Container Home Kit] The 4 wide container(3 bedroom) design there makes a lot more sense.</p><p>Using SIP&#8217;s internally, to provide insulation, walls, and a smooth surface is the way to go. I suggest a resounding NO to stick framing inside Shipping Container Designs !</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bryce</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50127</link> <dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 06:00:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50127</guid> <description>Some parts of it are cool, but I&#039;m also perplexed as to how it wound up costing $180/sf.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some parts of it are cool, but I&#8217;m also perplexed as to how it wound up costing $180/sf.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: blackcomb</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50126</link> <dc:creator>blackcomb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 04:52:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50126</guid> <description>Seems like a lot ( $180/sf ) for what you really get, I mean the inside isn&#039;t really cool it looks pretty trashy and the exterior isn&#039;t really great either. The idea is fun but really the end product just looks harsh for the money spent.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like a lot ( $180/sf ) for what you really get, I mean the inside isn&#8217;t really cool it looks pretty trashy and the exterior isn&#8217;t really great either. The idea is fun but really the end product just looks harsh for the money spent.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: royalestel</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/comment-page-1/#comment-50122</link> <dc:creator>royalestel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:45:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/08/03/prefab-friday-zigloo-domestique/#comment-50122</guid> <description>An Architect doing this to a shipping container?  Wow. Now I&#039;m totally convinced this is within reach of the common guy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Architect doing this to a shipping container?  Wow. Now I&#8217;m totally convinced this is within reach of the common guy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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