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> <channel><title>Comments on: THE CONCRETE HOUSE: How green is concrete?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/</link> <description>Future-forward design for the world you inhabit</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:06:50 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Inhabitat &#187; CO2 SAVER: Sustainable Lakeside House in Poland</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-78785</link> <dc:creator>Inhabitat &#187; CO2 SAVER: Sustainable Lakeside House in Poland</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:00:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-78785</guid> <description>[...] the central structure. The materials on the inside, such as the concrete floor, also have a high thermal mass allowing for less of a need of active mechanical control. The home also has two green roofs on [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the central structure. The materials on the inside, such as the concrete floor, also have a high thermal mass allowing for less of a need of active mechanical control. The home also has two green roofs on [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Harvey</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-75601</link> <dc:creator>Michael Harvey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:32:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-75601</guid> <description>Just to let you all know, this project was successfully built for an exhibition back in 2004.
http://www.archmedia.com.au/aa/aaissue.php?issueid=200501&amp;article=7&amp;typeon=2
Since then, the building has been dismantled and re-assembled several times in different locations.
The lifting eyelets  cast in to the various panels have worked very successfully.
By the way, all the columns are actually off the shelf sewer and stormwater pipes.
The idea was that this house could be a form of affordable housing.And thanks for all the nice comments!Michael Harvey
Architect</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to let you all know, this project was successfully built for an exhibition back in 2004.<br
/> <a
href="http://www.archmedia.com.au/aa/aaissue.php?issueid=200501&amp;article=7&amp;typeon=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.archmedia.com.au/aa/aaissue.php?issueid=200501&amp;article=7&amp;typeon=2</a><br
/> Since then, the building has been dismantled and re-assembled several times in different locations.<br
/> The lifting eyelets  cast in to the various panels have worked very successfully.<br
/> By the way, all the columns are actually off the shelf sewer and stormwater pipes.<br
/> The idea was that this house could be a form of affordable housing.</p><p>And thanks for all the nice comments!</p><p>Michael Harvey<br
/> Architect</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-57793</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:55:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-57793</guid> <description>I wonder to what degree concrete structures that are small-scale such as one-story buildings can be built of concrete components that can be assembled and dismantled.  I am thinking of Lego blocks here, but ones that can be disassembled and moved manually, and using a van or truck and not with special tools, machines or vehicles.I also like the idea of mixing materials.One fantasy I have is of a monolithic dome (mentioned above) covered with earth forming a hill of sorts with a wooden structure atop it and a structure below ground as well that utilizes steel and concrete and would be sheltered from the elements.  Now _that_ would last for centuries!  And everybody wants a house on a hill, right?!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder to what degree concrete structures that are small-scale such as one-story buildings can be built of concrete components that can be assembled and dismantled.  I am thinking of Lego blocks here, but ones that can be disassembled and moved manually, and using a van or truck and not with special tools, machines or vehicles.</p><p>I also like the idea of mixing materials.</p><p>One fantasy I have is of a monolithic dome (mentioned above) covered with earth forming a hill of sorts with a wooden structure atop it and a structure below ground as well that utilizes steel and concrete and would be sheltered from the elements.  Now _that_ would last for centuries!  And everybody wants a house on a hill, right?!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kat</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-56836</link> <dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:56:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-56836</guid> <description>no one has mentioned pumice yet.  self-insulating, durable, applied as concrete, poured into forms or made into blocks.  such an amazing, natural product.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no one has mentioned pumice yet.  self-insulating, durable, applied as concrete, poured into forms or made into blocks.  such an amazing, natural product.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Linnet Stuart</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-54133</link> <dc:creator>Linnet Stuart</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:10:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-54133</guid> <description>Concrete continues to emit C02 not only in the making of it but throughout it entire lifetime just as timber does. This has been proved and documented but hardly spoken about. Could someone provide facts please</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concrete continues to emit C02 not only in the making of it but throughout it entire lifetime just as timber does. This has been proved and documented but hardly spoken about. Could someone provide facts please</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Holmquist</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-54070</link> <dc:creator>David Holmquist</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:47:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-54070</guid> <description>Please consider the advantages of a &quot;monolithic dome&quot; made of concrete that is sprayed up into an air-inflated form.  The technology is very well developed.  Website:  www.monolithicdome.com.  I&#039;d like to see a green evaluation of the designs.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please consider the advantages of a &#8220;monolithic dome&#8221; made of concrete that is sprayed up into an air-inflated form.  The technology is very well developed.  Website: <a
href="http://www.monolithicdome.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.monolithicdome.com</a>.  I&#8217;d like to see a green evaluation of the designs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: art davis</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-53339</link> <dc:creator>art davis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:55:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-53339</guid> <description>ps...the most essential human needs are: air, water, food, and shelter. food and water are the primary needs that we have to spend energy on to produce.
now, with 6 billion people to house we have to consider new urban structure that doesnt eat up open land so much, no more horizontal sprawl.
concrete is an amazing product that allows great structural potential and creativity in form, as well as being a benign surface for interiors.
so...even if we continue to produce it using &quot;old school&quot; methods, and considering how much concrete is used today...
only 7% of the overall carbon output is a very small price to pay for the huge benefits it allows us.
but im confident we can create more localized, decentralized concrete production facilities using thermal solar energy. remember...current large plants using &quot;cheap&quot; fossil fuels are a product of a capitalist economy with no cares for sustainability. we have to turn that mentality around.
i will be presenting a new invention for a socio-economic system that solves many of the current complications we are running into.thanks again to the designer of this project to show on a small scale once again the greatness of the material
and thanks to this site for the forum and offering us a wide spectrum of new projects to comment on.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps&#8230;</p><p>the most essential human needs are: air, water, food, and shelter. food and water are the primary needs that we have to spend energy on to produce.<br
/> now, with 6 billion people to house we have to consider new urban structure that doesnt eat up open land so much, no more horizontal sprawl.<br
/> concrete is an amazing product that allows great structural potential and creativity in form, as well as being a benign surface for interiors.<br
/> so&#8230;even if we continue to produce it using &#8220;old school&#8221; methods, and considering how much concrete is used today&#8230;<br
/> only 7% of the overall carbon output is a very small price to pay for the huge benefits it allows us.<br
/> but im confident we can create more localized, decentralized concrete production facilities using thermal solar energy. remember&#8230;current large plants using &#8220;cheap&#8221; fossil fuels are a product of a capitalist economy with no cares for sustainability. we have to turn that mentality around.<br
/> i will be presenting a new invention for a socio-economic system that solves many of the current complications we are running into.</p><p>thanks again to the designer of this project to show on a small scale once again the greatness of the material<br
/> and thanks to this site for the forum and offering us a wide spectrum of new projects to comment on.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: art davis</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-53252</link> <dc:creator>art davis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:18:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-53252</guid> <description>i am amazed that so few people think urban!
it is a true failing of today&#039;s architecture schools, at least in this nation.
most of the problem is that this economic system focuses on single plots of land that are developed singularly.
we need to escape that mindset!we cant think of doing single family homes anymore! especially on nice big lots with views and few neighbors!but this project shows the greatness of concrete and this design can be applied very nicely to an urban scale.
we have to move to high-rise! dramatic new, creative, community oriented shells, lots of varying spaces. then we get to design each space individually. 3-d lots.
and concrete works great for that! so do the curves of this design.
and you dont have to do any surfacing! just add your own creative elements.
think of all the money, energy spent shopping for paint and all the other products in a framed house, no matter how green they are.think outside the 2-d box! and think urban designjust as we&#039;ve created new ways to motorize cars that dont pollute, we can find new ways to produce the heat needed to produce concrete. viewing concrete as a permenant polluter is being ....simpleminded?i love this design. yes, it brings le corbusier to mind. the curves are great.
great work and very inspiring!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am amazed that so few people think urban!<br
/> it is a true failing of today&#8217;s architecture schools, at least in this nation.<br
/> most of the problem is that this economic system focuses on single plots of land that are developed singularly.<br
/> we need to escape that mindset!</p><p>we cant think of doing single family homes anymore! especially on nice big lots with views and few neighbors!</p><p>but this project shows the greatness of concrete and this design can be applied very nicely to an urban scale.<br
/> we have to move to high-rise! dramatic new, creative, community oriented shells, lots of varying spaces. then we get to design each space individually. 3-d lots.<br
/> and concrete works great for that! so do the curves of this design.<br
/> and you dont have to do any surfacing! just add your own creative elements.<br
/> think of all the money, energy spent shopping for paint and all the other products in a framed house, no matter how green they are.</p><p>think outside the 2-d box! and think urban design</p><p>just as we&#8217;ve created new ways to motorize cars that dont pollute, we can find new ways to produce the heat needed to produce concrete. viewing concrete as a permenant polluter is being &#8230;.simpleminded?</p><p>i love this design. yes, it brings le corbusier to mind. the curves are great.<br
/> great work and very inspiring!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: james morgan</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-53083</link> <dc:creator>james morgan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:37:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-53083</guid> <description>The special claim of durability attached to concrete is untenable.  Any building that will last thirty years will easily last two hundred and thirty if properly maintained. Given a good hat and shoes (roof and foundation) even relatively modest wood structures are extremely durable - English examples built four centuries ago and more are not uncommon. In most parts of the US the drier climate and the vast renewable forest resources are even more favorable for wood buildings and offer the opportunity for long-term carbon-sequestration if thoughtfully deployed.On the other hand I have seen concrete structures less than fifty years old failing irrecoverably through neglect - the most common cause being foundation damage resulting from unchecked vegetation. In this regard their rigid monolithic construction is both their strength and their Achilles heel. Too, concrete buildings are notoriously unlovable: the notorious Pruitt-Igoe apartments in St. Louis lasted less than twenty years before they were put out of their misery and spectacularly blown to bits.If you want really durable and neglect-proof (but probably at the expense of comfort and cost), go for stone. Being non-monolithic it can adjust to moving foundations and endure a degree of neglect that would devastate other materials - the main walls of dwellings built 2,000 years ago are clearly visible at Chysauster in Cornwall, for example. And unlike concrete, the pieces can easily be repurposed (not just downcycled) to form new structures.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The special claim of durability attached to concrete is untenable.  Any building that will last thirty years will easily last two hundred and thirty if properly maintained. Given a good hat and shoes (roof and foundation) even relatively modest wood structures are extremely durable &#8211; English examples built four centuries ago and more are not uncommon. In most parts of the US the drier climate and the vast renewable forest resources are even more favorable for wood buildings and offer the opportunity for long-term carbon-sequestration if thoughtfully deployed.</p><p>On the other hand I have seen concrete structures less than fifty years old failing irrecoverably through neglect &#8211; the most common cause being foundation damage resulting from unchecked vegetation. In this regard their rigid monolithic construction is both their strength and their Achilles heel. Too, concrete buildings are notoriously unlovable: the notorious Pruitt-Igoe apartments in St. Louis lasted less than twenty years before they were put out of their misery and spectacularly blown to bits.</p><p>If you want really durable and neglect-proof (but probably at the expense of comfort and cost), go for stone. Being non-monolithic it can adjust to moving foundations and endure a degree of neglect that would devastate other materials &#8211; the main walls of dwellings built 2,000 years ago are clearly visible at Chysauster in Cornwall, for example. And unlike concrete, the pieces can easily be repurposed (not just downcycled) to form new structures.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Piriya</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52986</link> <dc:creator>Piriya</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:56:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-52986</guid> <description>even cutting the carbon emission from transportation and from heat generation, the process of making cement gives out around 700kg per 1000kg of cement produced anyway.but then again, concrete is very durable and can withstand time, but do we really want a prefab home that will last hundred of years? I love concrete, the feel, colours, texture.. I just love it but I don&#039;t really agree with the &#039;point&#039; of this particular house. Though, yes, I did get inspired by some of the concepts though, I might try experimenting them on my next chance.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even cutting the carbon emission from transportation and from heat generation, the process of making cement gives out around 700kg per 1000kg of cement produced anyway.</p><p>but then again, concrete is very durable and can withstand time, but do we really want a prefab home that will last hundred of years? I love concrete, the feel, colours, texture.. I just love it but I don&#8217;t really agree with the &#8216;point&#8217; of this particular house. Though, yes, I did get inspired by some of the concepts though, I might try experimenting them on my next chance.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew Netherton</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52983</link> <dc:creator>Andrew Netherton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:40:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-52983</guid> <description>I am not American, but Canadian.  Your other assumptions, however are correct: &quot;old&quot; buildings over on this side of the pond aren&#039;t nearly as anicent as what you have over in Europe.I will grant that many buildings in urban environments are continually re-tasked and re-purposed over and over again for decades (and centuries), but I guess my point is more whether that is truly the case for single-family dwellings as the Concrete House is showcased to be?  Yes, many buildings are repurposed... but are residences, typically?  I just don&#039;t want to assume that because a building has a structural lifetime measured in centuries that it will remain standing that long, hence my call to use a much shorter-term ROI.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not American, but Canadian.  Your other assumptions, however are correct: &#8220;old&#8221; buildings over on this side of the pond aren&#8217;t nearly as anicent as what you have over in Europe.</p><p>I will grant that many buildings in urban environments are continually re-tasked and re-purposed over and over again for decades (and centuries), but I guess my point is more whether that is truly the case for single-family dwellings as the Concrete House is showcased to be?  Yes, many buildings are repurposed&#8230; but are residences, typically?  I just don&#8217;t want to assume that because a building has a structural lifetime measured in centuries that it will remain standing that long, hence my call to use a much shorter-term ROI.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: shocka</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52810</link> <dc:creator>shocka</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:05:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-52810</guid> <description>reminds me a little of Le Corbusier and if u&#039;ve ever seen concrete in action u&#039;ll know how ugly it can look, thats not to say all buildings look awful when built with concrete as a finish material.
putting aesthetic appeal aside, the co2 numbers cannot be missedand to Mr Netherton, who i assume is american where u may consider a &quot;age-old&quot; building to be 50 years old, there are many. many, many examples throughout the world which have stood for more than a century.i&#039;ve not read into the facts and figure&#039;s but at a guess i would sooner use quality building materials than inferior materials and construction techniques if it mean the building would last twice as long.  obviously the nature of the site would be taken into consideration.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reminds me a little of Le Corbusier and if u&#8217;ve ever seen concrete in action u&#8217;ll know how ugly it can look, thats not to say all buildings look awful when built with concrete as a finish material.<br
/> putting aesthetic appeal aside, the co2 numbers cannot be missed</p><p>and to Mr Netherton, who i assume is american where u may consider a &#8220;age-old&#8221; building to be 50 years old, there are many. many, many examples throughout the world which have stood for more than a century.</p><p>i&#8217;ve not read into the facts and figure&#8217;s but at a guess i would sooner use quality building materials than inferior materials and construction techniques if it mean the building would last twice as long.  obviously the nature of the site would be taken into consideration.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Curtis</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52796</link> <dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:38:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-52796</guid> <description>What about Papercrete - drastically reduce the energy input (anyone have any numbers?), possibly papercrete used in insulated papercrete forms... just a thought.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Papercrete &#8211; drastically reduce the energy input (anyone have any numbers?), possibly papercrete used in insulated papercrete forms&#8230; just a thought.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dug</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52730</link> <dc:creator>dug</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:37:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-52730</guid> <description>many homes in new england have lasted more than a century.most of the brownstones in brooklyn are more than a century old.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>many homes in new england have lasted more than a century.</p><p>most of the brownstones in brooklyn are more than a century old.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JS</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52712</link> <dc:creator>JS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:33:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/09/10/the-concrete-house/#comment-52712</guid> <description>Where is any building used for more than a century?  Maybe I&#039;m missing something...but I&#039;d add &quot;most cities in Europe&quot; to that list as well.Just because modern building practice revolves around a sense of short useful lives doesn&#039;t make it an inescapable reality...Should we perform ROI&#039;s on DaVinci&#039;s works, or any of the other structures that have lasted beyond centuries...My only point is that we should acknowledge that the dominant paradigm today in many ways is disposability...and that it need not drive our decisions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is any building used for more than a century?  Maybe I&#8217;m missing something&#8230;but I&#8217;d add &#8220;most cities in Europe&#8221; to that list as well.</p><p>Just because modern building practice revolves around a sense of short useful lives doesn&#8217;t make it an inescapable reality&#8230;</p><p>Should we perform ROI&#8217;s on DaVinci&#8217;s works, or any of the other structures that have lasted beyond centuries&#8230;</p><p>My only point is that we should acknowledge that the dominant paradigm today in many ways is disposability&#8230;and that it need not drive our decisions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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