Comments on: TRANSPORTATION TUESDAY: Top 5 Cities For Public Transit http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/ Future-forward design for the world you inhabit Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:39:06 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: KittyCathttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-124556 KittyCat Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:34:29 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-124556 I\'ve been on the Tube, the trams and subway at Amsterdam and Buenos Aires. The former\'s great except for the flights of stairs one has to climb but I think they\'re working on having lifts / ramps for the disabled and baby strollers. The latter are pretty good too although they may not score in terms of signs in languages other than their own.Nice to see someone mention Hong Kong. What about Singapore? The MRT and the buses are one of the most connected, efficient and clean public transport I\'ve ever been on.China is fast coming up too especially as its masses rely on the public transport. Check out my post at http://bananainchina.com/2009/03/taking-the-public-transport/ and see if you agree :-) I\’ve been on the Tube, the trams and subway at Amsterdam and Buenos Aires. The former\’s great except for the flights of stairs one has to climb but I think they\’re working on having lifts / ramps for the disabled and baby strollers. The latter are pretty good too although they may not score in terms of signs in languages other than their own.

Nice to see someone mention Hong Kong. What about Singapore? The MRT and the buses are one of the most connected, efficient and clean public transport I\’ve ever been on.

China is fast coming up too especially as its masses rely on the public transport. Check out my post at http://bananainchina.com/2009/03/taking-the-public-transport/ and see if you agree :-)

]]> By: Ithinkhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-116279 Ithink Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:00:17 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-116279 Been to and lived in all cities execept Moscow and living in Seoul right now. Who made this to put London, Paris, Tokyo, NY on the list? I would say Seoul subway much better. Hongkong's system was also ok but as its network is too short yet. You know short networks are easier to manage.Anyway London, some stations are closed down all at a sudden with just an annoncement. That can't be imaged in other cities. The station corridors are too narrow and the elevators are way too old. Well it can be definetly be renowned for its history but can't be the best in the world! Worse than London was Paris! No one can use the system without confusion if not using French. The stations were dirty and spooky. Worse than Paris is NY. Dirty, system old, not conveient..having the largest system doesn't mean it's the best. Tokyo, segregated lanes are the worst point, having to buy a new ticket to change lanes between JR and Tokyo Metro. Had many trains and stations but it's a mess and didn't feel it's better that Seoul. Especially because of having to buy new tickets with extra charges. Well, Seoul has the 4th? largest system and is also very well manged with good infrastructure. Always clean, fast and convenient. The smart card is integrated with buses so the transfer between them are almost free! All stations have elevators and escalators just leaving a few out. Anyway I think Seoul's the best. Been to and lived in all cities execept Moscow and living in Seoul right now. Who made this to put London, Paris, Tokyo, NY on the list? I would say Seoul subway much better. Hongkong’s system was also ok but as its network is too short yet. You know short networks are easier to manage.

Anyway London, some stations are closed down all at a sudden with just an annoncement. That can’t be imaged in other cities. The station corridors are too narrow and the elevators are way too old. Well it can be definetly be renowned for its history but can’t be the best in the world! Worse than London was Paris! No one can use the system without confusion if not using French. The stations were dirty and spooky. Worse than Paris is NY. Dirty, system old, not conveient..having the largest system doesn’t mean it’s the best. Tokyo, segregated lanes are the worst point, having to buy a new ticket to change lanes between JR and Tokyo Metro. Had many trains and stations but it’s a mess and didn’t feel it’s better that Seoul. Especially because of having to buy new tickets with extra charges.
Well, Seoul has the 4th? largest system and is also very well manged with good infrastructure. Always clean, fast and convenient. The smart card is integrated with buses so the transfer between them are almost free! All stations have elevators and escalators just leaving a few out. Anyway I think Seoul’s the best.

]]> By: eraidesignshttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-101368 eraidesigns Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:48:27 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-101368 I don't know about the other cities but Tokyo should be bumped down the list. I live in Japan and used to live in Tokyo. While Tokyo public transit is extensive at least compared to my hometown in California (which has next to no public transit), I am sure there are much better places than Tokyo.I think the author should state the purpose of this article and HOW the cities are evaluated/ranked. Is it important just to have some sort of infrastructure? -even if it is not exactly efficient? If user experience is important at all, the Tokyo transportation system is a HUGE mess and a major pain in the ass to use. I don’t know about the other cities but Tokyo should be bumped down the list. I live in Japan and used to live in Tokyo. While Tokyo public transit is extensive at least compared to my hometown in California (which has next to no public transit), I am sure there are much better places than Tokyo.

I think the author should state the purpose of this article and HOW the cities are evaluated/ranked. Is it important just to have some sort of infrastructure? -even if it is not exactly efficient? If user experience is important at all, the Tokyo transportation system is a HUGE mess and a major pain in the ass to use.

]]> By: lisa_chttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-93248 lisa_c Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:55:54 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-93248 Seoul metro beats the NY system, London tube and the Paris system too. The Tokyo system too, actually. Who would ever have put NY's system second?! Seoul metro beats the NY system, London tube and the Paris system too. The Tokyo system too, actually. Who would ever have put NY’s system second?!

]]> By: Gracielabartletthttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-88243 Gracielabartlett Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:00:36 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-88243 I cannot believed that the New York subway is the second best in the world. I have been in New York and used the subway and it is not so great. It is so dirty and confuse. Besided, it's l ticketing system is very unreliable. I was born in Mexico City and I think our subway system is superior to the one in NY. How can this be that Mexico City is not on the top five? I cannot believed that the New York subway is the second best in the world. I have been in New York and used the subway and it is not so great. It is so dirty and confuse. Besided, it’s l ticketing system is very unreliable.
I was born in Mexico City and I think our subway system is superior to the one in NY. How can this be that Mexico City is not on the top five?

]]> By: JDDhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-82372 JDD Sat, 24 May 2008 16:14:14 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-82372 I\\\'ve been to London, Paris, and New York City, and I am only 12 years old. I only used buses at New York City and London, but I did ride on the Paris subway and it was nice. I\\\’ve been to London, Paris, and New York City, and I am only 12 years old. I only used buses at New York City and London, but I did ride on the Paris subway and it was nice.

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]]> By: Katie Garlandhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-70621 Katie Garland Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:22:22 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-70621 Hey i like ur pics Hey i like ur pics

]]> By: brianhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-63431 brian Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:46:16 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-63431 it seems like this list is merely the highest usage...not necessarily the best ones...noticeably absent is Mexico City, with is enormous volume of usersPerhaps one of the most underrated, yet best designed systems, is Madrid. It's length rivals London's and its trains are newer, faster and cleaner than many of these older systems.Also, why is Berlin off the list? it seems like this list is merely the highest usage…not necessarily the best ones…noticeably absent is Mexico City, with is enormous volume of users

Perhaps one of the most underrated, yet best designed systems, is Madrid. It’s length rivals London’s and its trains are newer, faster and cleaner than many of these older systems.

Also, why is Berlin off the list?

]]> By: ritahttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-61254 rita Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:48:44 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-61254 the second oldest underground railway in Europe was opened in Budapest in 1896. it is NOT the Paris underground as you incorrectly stated. the second oldest underground railway in Europe was opened in Budapest in 1896. it is NOT the Paris underground as you incorrectly stated.

]]> By: Martihttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-56059 Marti Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:19:34 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-56059 I live in Vienna and this city has a wonderful transport system - ubahn, trams, buses, fast train are all available for the same very reasonable cost (less than 500 euro for a yearly pass). http://homepage.univie.ac.at/horst.prillinger/metro/english/links.html I live in Vienna and this city has a wonderful transport system – ubahn, trams, buses, fast train are all available for the same very reasonable cost (less than 500 euro for a yearly pass).
http://homepage.univie.ac.at/horst.prillinger/metro/english/links.html

]]> By: Scotthttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-56055 Scott Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:46:20 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-56055 If there were a reverse list Vancouver would be near the top. Our transit lack-of-service is pathetic. Some influential idiots have convinced city and provincial politicians we need a new transit line in time for the Olympics. Why? So rich tourists coming to Canada in the winter (think lots of bags full of coats and boots) will take two trains to get to their expensive hotels? Yup, you need to transfer if your taking the brand new train from the airport.That's the kind of thinking that'll keep putting cars on the roads! If there were a reverse list Vancouver would be near the top. Our transit lack-of-service is pathetic. Some influential idiots have convinced city and provincial politicians we need a new transit line in time for the Olympics. Why? So rich tourists coming to Canada in the winter (think lots of bags full of coats and boots) will take two trains to get to their expensive hotels? Yup, you need to transfer if your taking the brand new train from the airport.

That’s the kind of thinking that’ll keep putting cars on the roads!

]]> By: Sandrahttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-55555 Sandra Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:14:24 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-55555 The Tokyo transit system is, indeed, amazing. To the person who made the comment about being crammed in: well, that just shows that the system is being well used. Rarely was I actually in a train where the crowding was seriously uncomfortable, and that was always due to a holiday or a (rare) delay; the only time I felt the train I was on was getting dangerously crowded was actually in Kyoto, not Tokyo. But yes, the amazing train and subway system is what I miss most about being back in the Bay Area; I shudder to think how I would feel if I lived somewhere with even *worse* public transit.(Can my last comment be taken down? I spaced out and put my full name... haha) The Tokyo transit system is, indeed, amazing. To the person who made the comment about being crammed in: well, that just shows that the system is being well used. Rarely was I actually in a train where the crowding was seriously uncomfortable, and that was always due to a holiday or a (rare) delay; the only time I felt the train I was on was getting dangerously crowded was actually in Kyoto, not Tokyo. But yes, the amazing train and subway system is what I miss most about being back in the Bay Area; I shudder to think how I would feel if I lived somewhere with even *worse* public transit.

(Can my last comment be taken down? I spaced out and put my full name… haha)

]]> By: Alexhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-55173 Alex Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:11:44 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-55173 Right has the writer been on public transport in london it's unaffordable, dirty, and overcrowded. Singapore, copenhagen etc all better Right has the writer been on public transport in london it’s unaffordable, dirty, and overcrowded. Singapore, copenhagen etc all better

]]> By: Benhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-55120 Ben Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:23:24 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/02/transportation-tuesday-top-10-cities-for-public-transit/#comment-55120 Having lived here for the last 4 years, Tokyo (and Japan, as a whole) has a fantastic transit system! The buses may not be great, as they are relatively underdeveloped, but the trains (subway, lightrail, bullet/Shinkansen) are superb and effectively serve as `dedicated` lanes and are what most people use. Almost all transit systems throughout Japan are fully-integrated with few exceptions, and every station usually includes automated ticketing for purchases and entry. Connections are timed exceptionally well for connections and are typically very punctual. Stations and trains are quite clean. What Tokyo/Japan lacks is a 24-hr system (closes ~1AM), even in larger cities which are very much `alive` 24-hrs. Having lived here for the last 4 years, Tokyo (and Japan, as a whole) has a fantastic transit system! The buses may not be great, as they are relatively underdeveloped, but the trains (subway, lightrail, bullet/Shinkansen) are superb and effectively serve as `dedicated` lanes and are what most people use. Almost all transit systems throughout Japan are fully-integrated with few exceptions, and every station usually includes automated ticketing for purchases and entry. Connections are timed exceptionally well for connections and are typically very punctual. Stations and trains are quite clean. What Tokyo/Japan lacks is a 24-hr system (closes ~1AM), even in larger cities which are very much `alive` 24-hrs.

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