Comments on: APTERA Diesel-Electric Hybrid Car On Sale Now! http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/ Future-forward design for the world you inhabit Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:52:41 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: SlowhandMcQueeghttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-148478 SlowhandMcQueeg Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:06:03 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-148478 Vaporware.This porduct has been advertised as shipping in late 2007Mid 2008early 2009and now late 2009.It is already mid 2009 and still they have not gotten a production facility lined up? Guess what people, you ain't gonna go from no production facility to production in 5 months. And you surely don't want one of the first coupla hundred cars off that assembly line, you want them to have worked out the production and manufacturing bugs first.Reality = Cool idea. But other than their coupla prototypes (which actually get no where near the mileage they claim when independaently evaluated) they have nothing. Vaporware.

This porduct has been advertised as shipping in late 2007

Mid 2008

early 2009

and now late 2009.

It is already mid 2009 and still they have not gotten a production facility lined up? Guess what people, you ain’t gonna go from no production facility to production in 5 months. And you surely don’t want one of the first coupla hundred cars off that assembly line, you want them to have worked out the production and manufacturing bugs first.

Reality = Cool idea. But other than their coupla prototypes (which actually get no where near the mileage they claim when independaently evaluated) they have nothing.

]]> By: daspifsterhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-138394 daspifster Fri, 01 May 2009 19:45:39 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-138394 Wow, the Aptera is such an amazing car! I am still not sure if I would prefer the hybrid or all electric version. Have you seen the Loremo? It seems to have a lot of potential as well.Have you seen the sledge hammer challenge? They have a standing offer of $100 for anyone who can put a dent in it with a sledge hammer. Also I hear that they are building and crushing them, but I can't find any crash test videos yet. You can find the sledge hammer video along with other great info, videos, and pictures of the Aptera the Loremo and several other green vehicles at http://www.EcoSoln.com . Wow, the Aptera is such an amazing car! I am still not sure if I would prefer the hybrid or all electric version. Have you seen the Loremo? It seems to have a lot of potential as well.

Have you seen the sledge hammer challenge? They have a standing offer of $100 for anyone who can put a dent in it with a sledge hammer. Also I hear that they are building and crushing them, but I can’t find any crash test videos yet. You can find the sledge hammer video along with other great info, videos, and pictures of the Aptera the Loremo and several other green vehicles at http://www.EcoSoln.com .

]]> By: AWhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-124199 AW Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:47:20 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-124199 So I\'ve read some of the comments here, some are ignorant and others have viable questions. All I\'ve got to say is if an aircraft carrier can run for 20 years on one nuclear fillup then give me a nuclear powered vehicle and I will wear a lead jock strap. All joking aside I\'m wondering how soon they will release this vehicle to the rest of the nation? I\'m ready to buy one.My commute is about 20 miles per day and this makes so much sence to me,the vehicle reminds me of my airplane.I figure I\'ll use this vehicle around town and for my daily commute then if I need to travel cross country I will either fly my airplane or rent a vehicle. Since I rarely travel long distances in an auto 100 miles per charge will do me just fine. So what happens when you push the limit and you run out of volts, get a long extension cord? As to someones comment about sharing the highway with eighteen wheelers I ride a motorcycle and don\'t seem to have an issue, why would the Aptera? If the batteries have a life of let\'s say 10 years and then you have to buy new ones for 3-5K then the miles per gallon cost sure blew through the roof also consider what will happen in a few short years as battery technology advances, your 100 mile range vehicle is now capable of lets say 400 miles so you now trade in your old battery pack for the new one for a cool 3K and there goes your miles per gallon calculation out the friggin window again. So I\’ve read some of the comments here, some are ignorant and others have viable questions. All I\’ve got to say is if an aircraft carrier can run for 20 years on one nuclear fillup then give me a nuclear powered vehicle and I will wear a lead jock strap. All joking aside I\’m wondering how soon they will release this vehicle to the rest of the nation? I\’m ready to buy one.My commute is about 20 miles per day and this makes so much sence to me,the vehicle reminds me of my airplane.I figure I\’ll use this vehicle around town and for my daily commute then if I need to travel cross country I will either fly my airplane or rent a vehicle. Since I rarely travel long distances in an auto 100 miles per charge will do me just fine. So what happens when you push the limit and you run out of volts, get a long extension cord? As to someones comment about sharing the highway with eighteen wheelers I ride a motorcycle and don\’t seem to have an issue, why would the Aptera? If the batteries have a life of let\’s say 10 years and then you have to buy new ones for 3-5K then the miles per gallon cost sure blew through the roof also consider what will happen in a few short years as battery technology advances, your 100 mile range vehicle is now capable of lets say 400 miles so you now trade in your old battery pack for the new one for a cool 3K and there goes your miles per gallon calculation out the friggin window again.

]]> By: John E. Fidlerhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-119214 John E. Fidler Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:07:43 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-119214 COME-ON, APTERA. Texas is ready...right now for Type-1 like PLUG-IN/HYBRIDs, some city-folk even want your pure Type 1e! We (in Texas) have the wide-open flat terrain, the sun and much more lenient Environmental standards then California and other fine states agree we need you ALL over, not just in California! And California NO-LONGER has Anti-Diesel laws ('cept locally). New Diesel Technology is so-o-o much cleaner, NOT like my old German Diesel. COME-ON, APTERA. Texas is ready…right now for Type-1 like PLUG-IN/HYBRIDs, some city-folk even want your pure Type 1e! We (in Texas) have the wide-open flat terrain, the sun and much more lenient Environmental standards then California and other fine states agree we need you ALL over, not just in California! And California NO-LONGER has Anti-Diesel laws (’cept locally). New Diesel Technology is so-o-o much cleaner, NOT like my old German Diesel.

]]> By: John E. Fidlerhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-119208 John E. Fidler Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:23:57 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-119208 Like most "FORWARD LOOKING" Americans say, "I want one!" (They are STILL limited to California) Why can't General Motors or Chrysler build something this new in style or simply will APTERA just get the U.S.Government funding to buy-out G.M & Chrysler Dealerships globally to update the automotive industry in America with American products? Is an APTERA/Burt Rutan OTR "Snake" Tracker /Trailer rig next? I picture, Solar collectors covering the entire roof of massive Trailers. ("Got your ears on, good buddie?")...THE Independent Truckers CAN return! Affordably!!!!! Like most “FORWARD LOOKING” Americans say, “I want one!” (They are STILL limited to California) Why can’t General Motors or Chrysler build something this new in style or simply will APTERA just get the U.S.Government funding to buy-out G.M & Chrysler Dealerships globally to update the automotive industry in America with American products? Is an APTERA/Burt Rutan OTR “Snake” Tracker /Trailer rig next? I picture, Solar collectors covering the entire roof of massive Trailers. (”Got your ears on, good buddie?”)…THE Independent Truckers CAN return! Affordably!!!!!

]]> By: someguy42737http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-117136 someguy42737 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:48:30 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-117136 thats cool almost 300mpg youll save so much per year and its less then most of the new cars people are getting when with the money you save for gas on this u could by a couple of them a year. almost like a huge RC thats cool almost 300mpg youll save so much per year and its less then most of the new cars people are getting
when with the money you save for gas on this u could by a couple of them a year. almost like a huge RC

]]> By: Arch Anglehttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-108483 Arch Angle Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:02:05 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-108483 It\'s a jarring sight, but with the increasing plethora of Personal Electric Vehicles being designed, and the increasing willingness of the general public to make adjustments away from gas economy, I can see more of these types of vehicles on the road in the near future. Once they start appearing, I bet there will be a snowball effect, and these lighter PEV\'s will lose their stigma as \"toys\", and may even come to characterize the bulk of traffic, eventually. As for futuristic design, I say why not, let\'s bring some style back into our lives and start living like the frikkin\' 21st century! I can see a real variety in design coming into the humdrum copycat crap that dominates our roads today.Safety is of course an important issue which this company is addressing. But anyone who drives on an interstate knows that 18 wheelers are the real challenge to be overcome. These roads have become monstrous in my lifetime. 18 wheelers often violate the speed limit and make poor decisions; but then lots of people like to tailgate at 75+mph. There needs to be a *revolution* in public traffic habits. I\'m not wishing - I\'m saying the effing truth and I mean it. It\’s a jarring sight, but with the increasing plethora of Personal Electric Vehicles being designed, and the increasing willingness of the general public to make adjustments away from gas economy, I can see more of these types of vehicles on the road in the near future. Once they start appearing, I bet there will be a snowball effect, and these lighter PEV\’s will lose their stigma as \”toys\”, and may even come to characterize the bulk of traffic, eventually. As for futuristic design, I say why not, let\’s bring some style back into our lives and start living like the frikkin\’ 21st century! I can see a real variety in design coming into the humdrum copycat crap that dominates our roads today.

Safety is of course an important issue which this company is addressing. But anyone who drives on an interstate knows that 18 wheelers are the real challenge to be overcome. These roads have become monstrous in my lifetime. 18 wheelers often violate the speed limit and make poor decisions; but then lots of people like to tailgate at 75+mph. There needs to be a *revolution* in public traffic habits. I\’m not wishing – I\’m saying the effing truth and I mean it.

]]> By: fincenMIBhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-106918 fincenMIB Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:54:56 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-106918 Well OK! I went ahead and put a $500. deposit down for a future Aptera! I will have 5k in my Geo Metro experiment and as I work in the edge of sales, via marketing, the Aptera would make a great ice breaker conversation piece. Its refundable, so I dare the rest of you to do the same! MIB Well OK! I went ahead and put a $500. deposit down for a future Aptera! I will have 5k in my Geo Metro experiment and as I work in the edge of sales, via marketing, the Aptera would make a great ice breaker conversation piece. Its refundable, so I dare the rest of you to do the same!
MIB

]]> By: fincenMIBhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-106907 fincenMIB Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:34:41 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-106907 Well if it goes into production by 2010 I will likely buy one. Last week I bought a Geo on ebay. I am dropping a low mileage Japanese engine in to replace a tired one. A 3 cyclinder, 5 speed, I already got 46-55 mpg and the engine was sucking oil. Aptera is to far out for my current needs, but driving a Geo, instead of my Ford Ranger, means trading some safety and comfort.After a Transportation Safety crash test and some clues to who will service these vehicles, the investment for those of us that still drive 4,000 plus miles per month, makes some level of sense. I have had motorcycles and certainly they were a safety consideration and or trade off as well. I am in my second Geo Metro and know what to expect. I have had a head on collision (37 years ago), so I can factor that experience into the potential benefit and risk of driving a light weight 3 wheeler.My business puts me on the road and increased transportation cost can put me out of business. Its all about benefit and with an extended driving range, for some of us the Aptera makes sense. Well if it goes into production by 2010 I will likely buy one. Last week I bought a Geo on ebay. I am dropping a low mileage Japanese engine in to replace a tired one. A 3 cyclinder, 5 speed, I already got 46-55 mpg and
the engine was sucking oil. Aptera is to far out for my current needs, but driving a Geo, instead of my Ford Ranger, means trading some safety and comfort.

After a Transportation Safety crash test and some clues to who will service these vehicles, the investment for those of us that still drive 4,000 plus miles per month, makes some level of sense. I have had motorcycles and certainly they were a safety consideration and or trade off as well. I am in my second Geo Metro and know what to expect. I have had a head on collision (37 years ago), so I can factor that experience into the potential benefit and risk of driving a light weight 3 wheeler.

My business puts me on the road and increased transportation cost can put me out of business. Its all about benefit and with an extended driving range, for some of us the Aptera makes sense.

]]> By: Jay in Illinoishttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-100852 Jay in Illinois Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:07:07 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-100852 I want an Aptera right now. I could easily save ~$2000 per year with this kind of mileage. I have a family of 6 therefore I can not give up on gasoline BUT I see this vehicle as an excellent commuter car for work and maybe quick trips in town.Hurry up and sell this car in the midwest.Jay I want an Aptera right now. I could easily save ~$2000 per year with this kind of mileage. I have a family of 6 therefore I can not give up on gasoline BUT I see this vehicle as an excellent commuter car for work and maybe quick trips in town.

Hurry up and sell this car in the midwest.

Jay

]]> By: jjboss1http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-97106 jjboss1 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:22:41 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-97106 Is the diesel available now? If so where do I go to purchase mine? I am ready today! Jim 1901 Enterprise Ave League City Texas 77573 Is the diesel available now? If so where do I go to purchase mine? I am ready today!
Jim 1901 Enterprise Ave
League City
Texas 77573

]]> By: freeshrimperhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-84407 freeshrimper Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:43:02 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-84407 4 wheels makes a CAR 3 wheels makes a MOTORCYCLE who wants a 20k motorcycle 4 wheels makes a CAR 3 wheels makes a MOTORCYCLE who wants a 20k motorcycle

]]> By: ecofriendlyhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-83390 ecofriendly Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:25:32 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-83390 I have been driving a hybrid since 2000. Potentially this design could relieve the gas pressure in the market. Buy the hybrid model as pure electric is not practical. I will gladly purchase this vehicle to compare it to the one I have, which by te way had $ 36,000,000 in R&D at Honda before they mastered the design. It is a step in the right direction!! I have been driving a hybrid since 2000. Potentially this design could relieve the gas pressure in the market.
Buy the hybrid model as pure electric is not practical. I will gladly purchase this vehicle to compare it to the one I have, which by te way had $ 36,000,000 in R&D at Honda before they mastered the design.
It is a step in the right direction!!

]]> By: puzderohttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-82867 puzdero Wed, 28 May 2008 17:53:20 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-82867 cool cool

]]> By: Desparate In Dixiehttp://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/comment-page-3/#comment-79760 Desparate In Dixie Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:57:07 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/09/aptera-diesel-electric-hybrid/#comment-79760 Crackers has stated the obvious point that has kept this technology from flourishing for decades. Remember the Tucker? But anyone that has ever had mustang fever or gone to an antique car show can plainly see that the emergence of new technology does not mean the extinction of the old. This is America and we can have anything we want if we are willing to do what it takes to have it. Electric does not have to replace gas, it just needs to help with the gas pains. When I play golf, I prefer a gas powered cart but electric will do fine. Both have their place. We cannot give in to fear in ANY aspect of our lives. That is no way to live. Take the chance. Do something different and see how many people come on board. Give one of this things to Schwarzenegger (sp?) and Hillary then make 'em campaign in it. Hell, a month later it'll be a law to have one. Fine with me as long as they never legalize them at NASCAR! Crackers has stated the obvious point that has kept this technology from flourishing for decades. Remember the Tucker? But anyone that has ever had mustang fever or gone to an antique car show can plainly see that the emergence of new technology does not mean the extinction of the old. This is America and we can have anything we want if we are willing to do what it takes to have it. Electric does not have to replace gas, it just needs to help with the gas pains. When I play golf, I prefer a gas powered cart but electric will do fine. Both have their place. We cannot give in to fear in ANY aspect of our lives. That is no way to live. Take the chance. Do something different and see how many people come on board. Give one of this things to Schwarzenegger (sp?) and Hillary then make ‘em campaign in it. Hell, a month later it’ll be a law to have one. Fine with me as long as they never legalize them at NASCAR!

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