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> <channel><title>Comments on: TRANSPORTATION TUESDAY: The Personal Podcar</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/</link> <description>Future-forward design for the world you inhabit</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:48:56 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: kaci white</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-110223</link> <dc:creator>kaci white</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:14:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-110223</guid> <description>uor future is going 2 bee very awsome</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uor future is going 2 bee very awsome</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: brian</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-63432</link> <dc:creator>brian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:48:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-63432</guid> <description>PRT is nothing new...Nixon built a system at WVU here in the states. It&#039;s a great concept really, but often turns out to be extremely expensive. It&#039;s only feasible over short distances because of its prohibitive costs</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PRT is nothing new&#8230;Nixon built a system at WVU here in the states. It&#8217;s a great concept really, but often turns out to be extremely expensive. It&#8217;s only feasible over short distances because of its prohibitive costs</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Denvers Airplane Luggage</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-62073</link> <dc:creator>John Denvers Airplane Luggage</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:33:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-62073</guid> <description>Hey Mr_Grant, there are only a few spreading the faith-based PRT flim flam, and they are hucksters, scam
artists and Koolaid drinkers (like you).  When it runs thousands of pods on little tracks and does not work then it is PRT as was the Denver Baggage Mangler.  And there are no PRT companies, they go out of business as soon as they can spend the public money for non working system studies or &quot;tests&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mr_Grant, there are only a few spreading the faith-based PRT flim flam, and they are hucksters, scam<br
/> artists and Koolaid drinkers (like you).  When it runs thousands of pods on little tracks and does not work then it is PRT as was the Denver Baggage Mangler.  And there are no PRT companies, they go out of business as soon as they can spend the public money for non working system studies or &#8220;tests&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Avidor</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-62065</link> <dc:creator>Avidor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:36:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-62065</guid> <description>Videos about PRT... enjoy:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwA6oSdEahs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwA6oSdEahs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkuvUIvrAlo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkuvUIvrAlo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blip.tv/file/363129/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blip.tv/file/363129/&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Videos about PRT&#8230; enjoy:</p><p><a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwA6oSdEahs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwA6oSdEahs</a></p><p><a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkuvUIvrAlo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkuvUIvrAlo</a></p><p><a
href="http://blip.tv/file/363129/" rel="nofollow">http://blip.tv/file/363129/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr_Grant</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-61990</link> <dc:creator>Mr_Grant</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:53:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-61990</guid> <description>The alleged Denver airport &quot;pod system&quot; is really the failed automated baggage-handling system a lot of people have heard about. Almost needless to say, it was not personal rapid transit at all, not based on PRT, and not connected to any PRT company.  Google &#039;denver (luggage&#124;baggage) &quot;personal rapid transit&quot; &#039; and you&#039;ll find one guy spreading this baseless claim.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The alleged Denver airport &#8220;pod system&#8221; is really the failed automated baggage-handling system a lot of people have heard about. Almost needless to say, it was not personal rapid transit at all, not based on PRT, and not connected to any PRT company.  Google &#8216;denver (luggage|baggage) &#8220;personal rapid transit&#8221; &#8216; and you&#8217;ll find one guy spreading this baseless claim.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Denvers Ghost</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-61504</link> <dc:creator>John Denvers Ghost</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:51:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-61504</guid> <description>Denver airport tried a pod system, United Airlines just successfully stuck the taxpayers for a couple hundred
million US for the non working system as they wormed out of bankruptcy.  Like the Hindenburg blimp PRT is
just not a workable transit solution.  The massive software and hardware disaster was studied by MIT and Harvard and found to be a total failure.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denver airport tried a pod system, United Airlines just successfully stuck the taxpayers for a couple hundred<br
/> million US for the non working system as they wormed out of bankruptcy.  Like the Hindenburg blimp PRT is<br
/> just not a workable transit solution.  The massive software and hardware disaster was studied by MIT and Harvard and found to be a total failure.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dilligaf ?</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-60172</link> <dc:creator>Dilligaf ?</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:11:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-60172</guid> <description>West Virginia University has had a PRT system for years. It worked great considering how ancient the computers were to control it. Even if there wasn&#039;t a car at the station, it didn&#039;t take more than a couple of minutes for one to show up. I like it better than light rail, and nothing else compares for convenience.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>West Virginia University has had a PRT system for years. It worked great considering how ancient the computers were to control it. Even if there wasn&#8217;t a car at the station, it didn&#8217;t take more than a couple of minutes for one to show up. I like it better than light rail, and nothing else compares for convenience.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Been Around</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-59415</link> <dc:creator>Been Around</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:59:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-59415</guid> <description>Avidor is obsessed and maniacal.  I think maybe his brain got bruised from too many falls off of his tricycle.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avidor is obsessed and maniacal.  I think maybe his brain got bruised from too many falls off of his tricycle.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eco-Cide: Exploring Ecology</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-59397</link> <dc:creator>Eco-Cide: Exploring Ecology</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:42:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-59397</guid> <description>[...] Inhabitat: The Personal Podcar by Jorge Cha&#8230; [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Inhabitat: The Personal Podcar by Jorge Cha&#8230; [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Someone of no consequence</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-59269</link> <dc:creator>Someone of no consequence</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:32:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-59269</guid> <description>In addition to the ULTRA project, there&#039;s a test track in Uppsala that is receiving safety approval from Swedish Rail on a system that&#039;s been under design since 2000. Vectus is a subsidiary of Korean steel giant POSCO, and, with ULTRA and several other serious vendors, has finally brought life to an idea that has been floating around for almost sixty years.The Swedish goverenment, through its forward planning agency, SIKA, has identified this as one of their real opportunities to provide transportation in keeping with their official goal of being oil-free by 2020. As with other urbanized areas in Europe, Sweden has tremendous transit systems in Stockholm and over distance, but in suburban areas, it&#039;s all cars. They see PodCars as an essential element that works in mid-density environments in conjunction with their line-haul systems.Major consulting firms in the transportation industry have produced studies which show that Podcars have the potential to move significant riders from their cars to a system which is safe, convenient, and reliable. A dozen pilot systems from multiple manufacturers should be up and running by 2010, and we will be able to see exactly how well or poorly these work in practice.It&#039;s sad that in the US, the idea of PRT has been used by ideologues in opposition to transit, when it is perceived as a complement to other systems in the rest of the world.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the ULTRA project, there&#8217;s a test track in Uppsala that is receiving safety approval from Swedish Rail on a system that&#8217;s been under design since 2000. Vectus is a subsidiary of Korean steel giant POSCO, and, with ULTRA and several other serious vendors, has finally brought life to an idea that has been floating around for almost sixty years.</p><p>The Swedish goverenment, through its forward planning agency, SIKA, has identified this as one of their real opportunities to provide transportation in keeping with their official goal of being oil-free by 2020. As with other urbanized areas in Europe, Sweden has tremendous transit systems in Stockholm and over distance, but in suburban areas, it&#8217;s all cars. They see PodCars as an essential element that works in mid-density environments in conjunction with their line-haul systems.</p><p>Major consulting firms in the transportation industry have produced studies which show that Podcars have the potential to move significant riders from their cars to a system which is safe, convenient, and reliable. A dozen pilot systems from multiple manufacturers should be up and running by 2010, and we will be able to see exactly how well or poorly these work in practice.</p><p>It&#8217;s sad that in the US, the idea of PRT has been used by ideologues in opposition to transit, when it is perceived as a complement to other systems in the rest of the world.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: B*A*M*F</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-59198</link> <dc:creator>B*A*M*F</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:58:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-59198</guid> <description>No One of Consequence, thanks for calling some of the readers of this site on the things they seem to often espouse. There is a strong bent toward a no-tech utopia that really is never going to happen.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No One of Consequence, thanks for calling some of the readers of this site on the things they seem to often espouse. There is a strong bent toward a no-tech utopia that really is never going to happen.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: No One Of Consequence</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-59094</link> <dc:creator>No One Of Consequence</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:45:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-59094</guid> <description>Man!  You anti and pro PRT people are quick on the draw.  How did you find this article and move your pissing match here so quickly?  But Avidor, you win the prize for first pounce.  What do you gain from your attacks on PRT and everyone who doesn&#039;t spit and curse as they vomit the letters &quot;PRT&quot;?Avidor, the founder of this site is looking for &quot;new ways to improve the world through forward-thinking, high-tech, and environmentally conscious design&quot;.  Your &quot;no car, pedestrian-only utopia&quot; fits only into the 3rd of the 3 things this site operator is searching for.  But since your utopia is backward thinking and &quot;no-tech&quot;, I doubt your flavor of &quot;environmentally conscious design&quot; is the same as hers.  I&#039;ll assume that you think she&#039;s wrong for not thinking the same way you do.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man!  You anti and pro PRT people are quick on the draw.  How did you find this article and move your pissing match here so quickly?  But Avidor, you win the prize for first pounce.  What do you gain from your attacks on PRT and everyone who doesn&#8217;t spit and curse as they vomit the letters &#8220;PRT&#8221;?</p><p>Avidor, the founder of this site is looking for &#8220;new ways to improve the world through forward-thinking, high-tech, and environmentally conscious design&#8221;.  Your &#8220;no car, pedestrian-only utopia&#8221; fits only into the 3rd of the 3 things this site operator is searching for.  But since your utopia is backward thinking and &#8220;no-tech&#8221;, I doubt your flavor of &#8220;environmentally conscious design&#8221; is the same as hers.  I&#8217;ll assume that you think she&#8217;s wrong for not thinking the same way you do.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NegaVolt.com &#187; Personal Podcars? $6 Million a MILE!</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-59000</link> <dc:creator>NegaVolt.com &#187; Personal Podcars? $6 Million a MILE!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:50:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-59000</guid> <description>[...] new article on Inhabitat discusses a new 4 person, battery operated &#8216;pod&#8217; that operates with no drivers.   It [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] new article on Inhabitat discusses a new 4 person, battery operated &#8216;pod&#8217; that operates with no drivers.   It [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr_Grant</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-58954</link> <dc:creator>Mr_Grant</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:08:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-58954</guid> <description>Security in PRT.What people fear is someone lurking in a station or at a bus stop.
In a demand responsive system, there is no reason to lurk. A loiterer sticks out like a sore thumb -- why don&#039;t they buy a ticket? If they&#039;ve bought a ticket, why don&#039;t they just get in a pod and Go already?Designers have also included &quot;panic buttons&quot; in vehicles that can be pushed in event of any emergency. Usually the  pod will be routed to the next station and emergency services are automatically contacted.There are also security wrries that pods could be used to send explosives. But this can be prevented with engineering. If you watch the Vectus or ULTra videos that show real people riding, you&#039;ll notice there is a Go button inside that must be pressed before the trip can begin.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Security in PRT.</p><p>What people fear is someone lurking in a station or at a bus stop.</p><p>In a demand responsive system, there is no reason to lurk. A loiterer sticks out like a sore thumb &#8212; why don&#8217;t they buy a ticket? If they&#8217;ve bought a ticket, why don&#8217;t they just get in a pod and Go already?</p><p>Designers have also included &#8220;panic buttons&#8221; in vehicles that can be pushed in event of any emergency. Usually the  pod will be routed to the next station and emergency services are automatically contacted.</p><p>There are also security wrries that pods could be used to send explosives. But this can be prevented with engineering. If you watch the Vectus or ULTra videos that show real people riding, you&#8217;ll notice there is a Go button inside that must be pressed before the trip can begin.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: A Transportation Enthusiast</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/comment-page-1/#comment-58944</link> <dc:creator>A Transportation Enthusiast</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:31:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/11/06/transportation-tuesday-the-personal-podcar/#comment-58944</guid> <description>You don&#039;t have to ride with anyone unless you want to, so the only way you&#039;d be &quot;alone with a random stranger&quot; is if a stranger forced himself into your pod. What criminal in his right mind would actually force himself into a vehicle with you, knowing that HE also has no means of escaping, and that he will likely be surrounded by cops when he arrives at his desination?As for &quot;talking to strangers&quot;, the personal nature of PRT travel is merely a side effect of its primary goals: convenience, availability, and point-to-point non-stop service. It just so happens that these primary goals are most efficiently achieved with individual pods. In other words, you can&#039;t have on-demand point-to-point service in large vehicles, because hardly anyone is ever going to the same place at the same time.And anyway, aren&#039;t there better places to socialize than standing at a bus stop in the rain? Wouldn&#039;t you rather hop into a pod have it take you (nonstop) to your favorite pub for happy hour? By the time the bus got you there, happy hour would be over. :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to ride with anyone unless you want to, so the only way you&#8217;d be &#8220;alone with a random stranger&#8221; is if a stranger forced himself into your pod. What criminal in his right mind would actually force himself into a vehicle with you, knowing that HE also has no means of escaping, and that he will likely be surrounded by cops when he arrives at his desination?</p><p>As for &#8220;talking to strangers&#8221;, the personal nature of PRT travel is merely a side effect of its primary goals: convenience, availability, and point-to-point non-stop service. It just so happens that these primary goals are most efficiently achieved with individual pods. In other words, you can&#8217;t have on-demand point-to-point service in large vehicles, because hardly anyone is ever going to the same place at the same time.</p><p>And anyway, aren&#8217;t there better places to socialize than standing at a bus stop in the rain? Wouldn&#8217;t you rather hop into a pod have it take you (nonstop) to your favorite pub for happy hour? By the time the bus got you there, happy hour would be over. :-)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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