Comments on: Mile-High London Eco Tower by PopularArchitecture http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/ Future-forward design for the world you inhabit Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:52:41 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Chrishttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-78371 Chris Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:44:21 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-78371 This design is about totally removed from what it is to be human. I suppose, when you've spent thousands of dollars getting educated in architecture, you have to come up with such things in order to justify the expense, and to protect the fragile ego from scorn. It seems to me that the basic premise of this design is imagining that people already know how to live in peacful communities. If they don't (and they don't) all that will happen is that you will transport all our current social problema into mile-high towers. The novelty factor of living in such places will wear off quite quickly. I reckon that the focus should be on "what causes all our social ills?" with a total, stop-at-nothing willingness to unearth these causes. Such an attitude should go a long way to re-humanising architecture. And also, there are major flaws in the design. This design is about totally removed from what it is to be human. I suppose, when you’ve spent thousands of dollars getting educated in architecture, you have to come up with such things in order to justify the expense, and to protect the fragile ego from scorn. It seems to me that the basic premise of this design is imagining that people already know how to live in peacful communities. If they don’t (and they don’t) all that will happen is that you will transport all our current social problema into mile-high towers. The novelty factor of living in such places will wear off quite quickly. I reckon that the focus should be on “what causes all our social ills?” with a total, stop-at-nothing willingness to unearth these causes. Such an attitude should go a long way to re-humanising architecture.
And also, there are major flaws in the design.

]]> By: Mokkehttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-78335 Mokke Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:14:38 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-78335 In the 1930\'s we thought this would have become a standard by now, much caused by the rapid erection of such buildings like Empire state building and Crystler building (ref. Delirious New York by Rem Koolhaas ). There was no limit for how tall a building could become. But now it seems that high rises has gotten a revelation, due to people with lack of impotence in some Arabic and Asian countries. My point is that this must be a temporarily phenomenon. that we will overcome.. Because it can\'t be cool to stand in an elevator with a bunch of people with high perspiration for twenty minutes just to get down... and it can\'t be economical... In the 1930\’s we thought this would have become a standard by now, much caused by the rapid erection of such buildings like Empire state building and Crystler building (ref. Delirious New York by Rem Koolhaas ). There was no limit for how tall a building could become. But now it seems that high rises has gotten a revelation, due to people with lack of impotence in some Arabic and Asian countries. My point is that this must be a temporarily phenomenon. that we will overcome.. Because it can\’t be cool to stand in an elevator with a bunch of people with high perspiration for twenty minutes just to get down… and it can\’t be economical…

]]> By: SuperTower: una torre de 500 pisos en medio de Londres - HIGHSCOREhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-77768 SuperTower: una torre de 500 pisos en medio de Londres - HIGHSCORE Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:05:09 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-77768 [...] Inhabitat. Puedes seguir las respuestas a este post mediante nuestro RSS 2.0 feed. Puedes dejar una [...] [...] Inhabitat. Puedes seguir las respuestas a este post mediante nuestro RSS 2.0 feed. Puedes dejar una [...]

]]> By: Mikehttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-76479 Mike Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:31:05 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-76479 This is an old idea first conceived by John Wagner in Judge Dredd for 2000AD back in 1977. Suffice to say it doesn't work in his eyes... This is an old idea first conceived by John Wagner in Judge Dredd for 2000AD back in 1977. Suffice to say it doesn’t work in his eyes…

]]> By: Alanhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-76110 Alan Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:09:40 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-76110 Have you ever seen the film Fifth Element? Not a great vision of the future. Architecture needs to be on a human scale. Have you ever seen the film Fifth Element? Not a great vision of the future.
Architecture needs to be on a human scale.

]]> By: nick carterhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-76060 nick carter Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:48:17 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-76060 Der, woss gonna happen when i fling me pepsi can down frum up dere? It gonna rain kentucky fried wrappers ennit? Der,
woss gonna happen when i fling me pepsi can down frum up dere?
It gonna rain kentucky fried wrappers ennit?

]]> By: mile high v2.0 « the way we livehttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-75881 mile high v2.0 « the way we live Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:19:41 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-75881 [...] as i accurately hypothesized before, is completely out of touch with everything human. according to inhabitat, the tower would rise some 500 stories and, “would contain schools and hospitals to shops and [...] [...] as i accurately hypothesized before, is completely out of touch with everything human. according to inhabitat, the tower would rise some 500 stories and, “would contain schools and hospitals to shops and [...]

]]> By: David Howellhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-75554 David Howell Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:38:31 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-75554 Sorry - that is simply an ugly structure without any architectural merit.I agree with previous comments - this says more about architectural ego than it does about environmental issues.Where is the human scale? This is just a Fritz Lang wet dream.Awful! Sorry – that is simply an ugly structure without any architectural merit.

I agree with previous comments – this says more about architectural ego than it does about environmental issues.

Where is the human scale? This is just a Fritz Lang wet dream.

Awful!

]]> By: Nick Simpsonhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-75178 Nick Simpson Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:49:20 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-75178 In regards to this concept, it is little more than a piece of theoretical design created to prompt discussion - which is exactly what it has done. It is interesting to think of what height is actually optimal (bearing in mind that this may change depending on site, climate etc) in terms of sustainability... In regards to this concept, it is little more than a piece of theoretical design created to prompt discussion – which is exactly what it has done. It is interesting to think of what height is actually optimal (bearing in mind that this may change depending on site, climate etc) in terms of sustainability…

]]> By: Nick Simpsonhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-75176 Nick Simpson Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:42:20 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-75176 I've lived at the Arcosanti for a few weeks. That most certainly is not the way forward, nor is anything else associated with Soleri... I’ve lived at the Arcosanti for a few weeks. That most certainly is not the way forward, nor is anything else associated with Soleri…

]]> By: Davidhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-74959 David Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:58:23 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-74959 C'mon, building such as this one are all about the architects ego. It's yet another trophy (to themselves, as usual).If you want to promote 'tall' and/or integrated 'community' and/or 'small footprint' ... why is there no mention of Paulo Soleri's Arcology. That is the true innovation! Function, form and style ... all evolved out of deep principles. C’mon, building such as this one are all about the architects ego. It’s yet another trophy (to themselves, as usual).

If you want to promote ‘tall’ and/or integrated ‘community’ and/or ’small footprint’ … why is there no mention of Paulo Soleri’s Arcology. That is the true innovation! Function, form and style … all evolved out of deep principles.

]]> By: Robert Millerhttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-74937 Robert Miller Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:04:52 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-74937 If you people work in the sector God help us, if your mathematical workings are as shoddy i wouldn't want to live in any of your buildings...Anyway you are all a tad negative - the point of such designs are not to be built but to instill creativity within the sector... If you people work in the sector God help us, if your mathematical workings are as shoddy i wouldn’t want to live in any of your buildings…

Anyway you are all a tad negative – the point of such designs are not to be built but to instill creativity within the sector…

]]> By: Jason Macosahttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-74825 Jason Macosa Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:26:52 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-74825 To build a skycraper that is one mile in height (5280 feet), you will need at least 3-6 square blocks of ground space for the foundation and or the base to support it's own weight, provide ample protection against high winds and to defy gravity otself. This is not only NOT feasible but and a ridiculous idea that will never be built period. BTW - the the estimated costs to build such building would be between 3-6 billion US dollars... To build a skycraper that is one mile in height (5280 feet), you will need at least 3-6 square blocks of ground space for the foundation and or the base to support it’s own weight, provide ample protection against high winds and to defy gravity otself. This is not only NOT feasible but and a ridiculous idea that will never be built period. BTW – the the estimated costs to build such building would be between 3-6 billion US dollars…

]]> By: Matthttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-74712 Matt Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:49:01 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-74712 Do Ecological and tall buildings go together? It's a complex question but their construction emits more carbon and uses more resources more than low height buildings. They also consume more energy when in use. Those mile high lifts going up and downwill consume a lot of energy. Do Ecological and tall buildings go together? It’s a complex question but their construction emits more carbon and uses more resources more than low height buildings. They also consume more energy when in use. Those mile high lifts going up and downwill consume a lot of energy.

]]> By: danbowleshttp://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/comment-page-1/#comment-74672 danbowles Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:36:48 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/02/28/popularchitecture%e2%80%99s-pie-in-the-sky-city/#comment-74672 In disagreement to some other comments though, some of the greatest architectural designs have never been built... In disagreement to some other comments though, some of the greatest architectural designs have never been built…

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