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> <channel><title>Comments on: TRANSPORTATION TUESDAY: The 80mph TRIAC Goes on Sale!</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/</link> <description>Future-forward design for the world you inhabit</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:48:56 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: A Sporty and Affordable Electric Vehicle</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-97930</link> <dc:creator>A Sporty and Affordable Electric Vehicle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:44:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-97930</guid> <description>[...] read more &#124; digg story [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] read more | digg story [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: deedubya</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-93422</link> <dc:creator>deedubya</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:20:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-93422</guid> <description>Will they have financing available!!I desperately need a vehicle and don&#039;t want to pay for gas. I so want one of these!!Also, I live in missouri, would it be possible for the battery(ies) not to die/explode because of the cold winters??</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will they have financing available!!</p><p>I desperately need a vehicle and don&#8217;t want to pay for gas. I so want one of these!!</p><p>Also, I live in missouri, would it be possible for the battery(ies) not to die/explode because of the cold winters??</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: elepski</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-91757</link> <dc:creator>elepski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:27:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-91757</guid> <description>20k is a good price.. not great.. but good... that&#039;s cheaper than some high end cycles....And using the excuse of &quot;But, it requires a motorcycle endorsement&quot;.. is lame.. it&#039;s a small matter to get one.. and allot of states have exclusions for motorcycles of this type. A special endorsement may not be needed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20k is a good price.. not great.. but good&#8230; that&#8217;s cheaper than some high end cycles&#8230;.</p><p>And using the excuse of &#8220;But, it requires a motorcycle endorsement&#8221;.. is lame.. it&#8217;s a small matter to get one.. and allot of states have exclusions for motorcycles of this type. A special endorsement may not be needed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: xenochem</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-83719</link> <dc:creator>xenochem</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:08:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-83719</guid> <description>This is way to expensive for this to make it in a real world market.  Another problem is that this is not a car but a motorcycle under most state laws.  Unless you have a cycle license you can&#039;t even drive it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is way to expensive for this to make it in a real world market.  Another problem is that this is not a car but a motorcycle under most state laws.  Unless you have a cycle license you can&#8217;t even drive it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DanBailiff</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-83671</link> <dc:creator>DanBailiff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:03:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-83671</guid> <description>I still think $20k is too pricey for a new vehicle that small. I love the idea, but your money would be better spent on a used hybrid or gas-efficient vehicle that could actually carry more than just 2 very skinny people. Granted, it&#039;s intended to be a short-commute vehicle, but $20k makes it a bit pricey for such a narrow role.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think $20k is too pricey for a new vehicle that small. I love the idea, but your money would be better spent on a used hybrid or gas-efficient vehicle that could actually carry more than just 2 very skinny people. Granted, it&#8217;s intended to be a short-commute vehicle, but $20k makes it a bit pricey for such a narrow role.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DigitalMind</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-83372</link> <dc:creator>DigitalMind</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:30:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-83372</guid> <description>Some people forget that not the WHOLE world runs on coal power plants.  I&#039;m in Quebec, Canada.  My power is generated by water.  Except for the flooding of area&#039;s where damn&#039;s are built, that&#039;s VERY clean and emission free power.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people forget that not the WHOLE world runs on coal power plants.  I&#8217;m in Quebec, Canada.  My power is generated by water.  Except for the flooding of area&#8217;s where damn&#8217;s are built, that&#8217;s VERY clean and emission free power.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: An Electric Car You Can Buy Today: The $20K TRIAC EV : Gas 2.0</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-82730</link> <dc:creator>An Electric Car You Can Buy Today: The $20K TRIAC EV : Gas 2.0</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:07:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-82730</guid> <description>[...] little number has been getting some good press lately (see EcoGeek and Inhabit), and for good reason: it&#8217;s the first commercially available electric vehicle with a price [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] little number has been getting some good press lately (see EcoGeek and Inhabit), and for good reason: it&#8217;s the first commercially available electric vehicle with a price [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kat</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-82652</link> <dc:creator>kat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 01:41:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-82652</guid> <description>i just gotta say, if your head hitting an airbag broke your nose, think of what your head hitting the windshield or steering wheel would do.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just gotta say, if your head hitting an airbag broke your nose, think of what your head hitting the windshield or steering wheel would do.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WBrooke</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-82079</link> <dc:creator>WBrooke</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:49:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-82079</guid> <description>To Chas and VirtualRichard,It is true that most of our electicity is generated with coal, and &quot;electric&quot; vehicles essentially are &quot;coal powered&quot; vehicles.However, that&#039;s not the end of the story, and electic vehicles offer a lot of advantages.
Firstly, the efficiency of one, big power plant is much higher than having millions of tiny, mobile power plants (vehicle engines).  Vehicle engines rarely operate in their highest efficiency range since the speed of the car is constantly changing, while a power plant is tuned to operate at a constant speed at its highest efficiency.  Also, the cumulative friction of millions of vehicle engine pistons is much much greater than the internal friction of a power plant turbine.Secondly, the electicity grid can be fed by many different sources.  Wind capacity is growing all the time, as is solar, biomass, low-impact hydro, and many other renewable sources of power.  As green regulations come on line, and as electricity consumers demand cleaner power, the electicity mix is (slowly) shifting to cleaner technologies.  If you are in a deregulated electricity market, you can talk to your electicity provider about green tariffs where you pay a small premium to purchase &quot;green&quot; electricity.  Then you could say that your electric car was driven 100% by wind power.  As the market for &quot;alternative&quot; energy heats up, the electicity grid will become cleaner.Thirdly, having all of the emissions for driving come from a central power plant gives us the opportunity to deal with those emissions at a point source in a stationary setting.  It is extremely difficult to scrub and treat vehicle exhaust, simply because the vehicle is in motion.  And just think of it...we have all of these vehicle engines chugging away spewing noxious gases directly into where we work, live and play.  Think how much cleaner the air in our cities would be if we all drove electric cars.  Sure the emissions are just shifted to the power plant, but the emissions would be outside of the city, the toxins could be scrubbed from the exhaust, and even the carbon dioxide could be sequestered (or dealt with in other ways).Fourthly, with central power stations, you have the opportunity to combine cycles for much greater efficiency.  Specifically for gas turbines, the hot exhaust from the turbine cycle is used to make steam for a steam turbine, thus generating more electricity from the same amount of fuel.  The same opportunities do not exist for millions of individual vehicle engines.Fifthly, you can generate green electricity at home with solar panels or home wind turbines, so if you have the talent to set up such a home power system, you would never have to purchase fuel for personal mobility ever again!  That&#039;s pretty attractive.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Chas and VirtualRichard,</p><p>It is true that most of our electicity is generated with coal, and &#8220;electric&#8221; vehicles essentially are &#8220;coal powered&#8221; vehicles.</p><p>However, that&#8217;s not the end of the story, and electic vehicles offer a lot of advantages.<br
/> Firstly, the efficiency of one, big power plant is much higher than having millions of tiny, mobile power plants (vehicle engines).  Vehicle engines rarely operate in their highest efficiency range since the speed of the car is constantly changing, while a power plant is tuned to operate at a constant speed at its highest efficiency.  Also, the cumulative friction of millions of vehicle engine pistons is much much greater than the internal friction of a power plant turbine.</p><p>Secondly, the electicity grid can be fed by many different sources.  Wind capacity is growing all the time, as is solar, biomass, low-impact hydro, and many other renewable sources of power.  As green regulations come on line, and as electricity consumers demand cleaner power, the electicity mix is (slowly) shifting to cleaner technologies.  If you are in a deregulated electricity market, you can talk to your electicity provider about green tariffs where you pay a small premium to purchase &#8220;green&#8221; electricity.  Then you could say that your electric car was driven 100% by wind power.  As the market for &#8220;alternative&#8221; energy heats up, the electicity grid will become cleaner.</p><p>Thirdly, having all of the emissions for driving come from a central power plant gives us the opportunity to deal with those emissions at a point source in a stationary setting.  It is extremely difficult to scrub and treat vehicle exhaust, simply because the vehicle is in motion.  And just think of it&#8230;we have all of these vehicle engines chugging away spewing noxious gases directly into where we work, live and play.  Think how much cleaner the air in our cities would be if we all drove electric cars.  Sure the emissions are just shifted to the power plant, but the emissions would be outside of the city, the toxins could be scrubbed from the exhaust, and even the carbon dioxide could be sequestered (or dealt with in other ways).</p><p>Fourthly, with central power stations, you have the opportunity to combine cycles for much greater efficiency.  Specifically for gas turbines, the hot exhaust from the turbine cycle is used to make steam for a steam turbine, thus generating more electricity from the same amount of fuel.  The same opportunities do not exist for millions of individual vehicle engines.</p><p>Fifthly, you can generate green electricity at home with solar panels or home wind turbines, so if you have the talent to set up such a home power system, you would never have to purchase fuel for personal mobility ever again!  That&#8217;s pretty attractive.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chas</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-82044</link> <dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:52:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-82044</guid> <description>VirtualRichard
yes, EV&#039;s use electricity that comes from a coal burning power plant but the amount of emissions created by the powerplant inorder to recharge the vehicle is insugnificant compared to emissions of a cumbustion engine.  the thing you need to keep in mind is that they are producing electricity to handle the daylight load levels.   at night when everyone sleeps &amp; it&#039;s cooler outside the electric demand is a fraction of the daytime demand but the generators are still pumping daytime levels.  this means that there is a huge amount of available overnight electricity without producting any more emissions than would otherwise be produced.  if everyone on the planet switched to electric vehicles and they recharged them overnight, there would be absolutely no increase in power production than current levels but the planet would be much better off.
the ideal sulution is for everyone to have solar panels or wind turbines so that you could recharge the vehicle off grid.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VirtualRichard<br
/> yes, EV&#8217;s use electricity that comes from a coal burning power plant but the amount of emissions created by the powerplant inorder to recharge the vehicle is insugnificant compared to emissions of a cumbustion engine.  the thing you need to keep in mind is that they are producing electricity to handle the daylight load levels.   at night when everyone sleeps &amp; it&#8217;s cooler outside the electric demand is a fraction of the daytime demand but the generators are still pumping daytime levels.  this means that there is a huge amount of available overnight electricity without producting any more emissions than would otherwise be produced.  if everyone on the planet switched to electric vehicles and they recharged them overnight, there would be absolutely no increase in power production than current levels but the planet would be much better off.<br
/> the ideal sulution is for everyone to have solar panels or wind turbines so that you could recharge the vehicle off grid.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: VirtualRichard</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-82016</link> <dc:creator>VirtualRichard</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 08:41:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-82016</guid> <description>Sorry to burst your bubble but electric cars are absolutely not &#039;zero emission&#039;. Electric cars use electricity. Electricity comes from power stations. Power stations, let me tell you, have a whole lot of emitting going on! All you are doing is switching the emissions somewhere out of mind so any feelings of immediate guilt are assuaged.If everyone on the planet switched to using electricity for transport, just think what that would mean for electricity supplies. The only way to sustain it properly would be to go nuclear. There just isn&#039;t enough alternative energy sources out there to sustain millions upon millions of electric vehicles...Think about it. An electrical future won&#039;t work unless we all go nuclear. That really sucks, non?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to burst your bubble but electric cars are absolutely not &#8216;zero emission&#8217;. Electric cars use electricity. Electricity comes from power stations. Power stations, let me tell you, have a whole lot of emitting going on! All you are doing is switching the emissions somewhere out of mind so any feelings of immediate guilt are assuaged.</p><p>If everyone on the planet switched to using electricity for transport, just think what that would mean for electricity supplies. The only way to sustain it properly would be to go nuclear. There just isn&#8217;t enough alternative energy sources out there to sustain millions upon millions of electric vehicles&#8230;</p><p>Think about it. An electrical future won&#8217;t work unless we all go nuclear. That really sucks, non?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Xencer</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-81982</link> <dc:creator>Xencer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-81982</guid> <description>Looks like a death trap to me, I wonder if you can go faster than 8 mph while turning without flipping it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a death trap to me, I wonder if you can go faster than 8 mph while turning without flipping it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 4abtrlife</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-81979</link> <dc:creator>4abtrlife</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:36:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-81979</guid> <description>I want it and I want it now!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want it and I want it now!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nick Gallegos</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-81978</link> <dc:creator>Nick Gallegos</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:29:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-81978</guid> <description>@ Chas, Obviously you have never been in a car accident with a modern air bag.  I am a male that is well built and had an accident in my 2005 Mini Cooper S.  It bruised my chest, broke my nose and gave me chemical burns on my left arm.  I thought the car was on fire and jumped out and ran over 30 feet before I stopped to see if it was going to blow up.  I could have been hit by another car at that point, but was lucky.  I have also been in a head on collision with a garbage truck in a 1971 VW Carmann Ghia, and had a slightly bruised left shoulder.  Airbags don\&#039;t mean safety.  Do you have any idea what that chemical mix is that they use to propel that bag at you?  Why don\&#039;t car companies use deflection methods for energy?  I once saw a video of a guy that made a seat that would bounce up during an impact.  He used a 70\&#039;s station wagon and hit a concrete wall doing 40MPH with no seat belt on.  He walked away without a scratch.  I also know the original inventor of the chemical device in air bags and he said they should have never used it.  Also, maybe you need to learn how to drive in snow like a reasonable person.  I have driven a 49.7cc scooter for over 2 years in Colorado weather without problems.  Do you work for GM or Ford?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Chas, Obviously you have never been in a car accident with a modern air bag.  I am a male that is well built and had an accident in my 2005 Mini Cooper S.  It bruised my chest, broke my nose and gave me chemical burns on my left arm.  I thought the car was on fire and jumped out and ran over 30 feet before I stopped to see if it was going to blow up.  I could have been hit by another car at that point, but was lucky.  I have also been in a head on collision with a garbage truck in a 1971 VW Carmann Ghia, and had a slightly bruised left shoulder.  Airbags don\&#8217;t mean safety.  Do you have any idea what that chemical mix is that they use to propel that bag at you?  Why don\&#8217;t car companies use deflection methods for energy?  I once saw a video of a guy that made a seat that would bounce up during an impact.  He used a 70\&#8217;s station wagon and hit a concrete wall doing 40MPH with no seat belt on.  He walked away without a scratch.  I also know the original inventor of the chemical device in air bags and he said they should have never used it.  Also, maybe you need to learn how to drive in snow like a reasonable person.  I have driven a 49.7cc scooter for over 2 years in Colorado weather without problems.  Do you work for GM or Ford?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Niggertits</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-81976</link> <dc:creator>Niggertits</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:28:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/05/20/transportation-tuesday-the-80mph-triac-goes-on-sale/#comment-81976</guid> <description>Zero emmissions? where does the electricity come from, fairydust?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zero emmissions? where does the electricity come from, fairydust?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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