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> <channel><title>Comments on: Burp Catching Backpack To Trap Cow Gas!</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/</link> <description>Future-forward design for the world you inhabit</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:55:06 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: halfmoose</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-92680</link> <dc:creator>halfmoose</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:57:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-92680</guid> <description>Color me vegan...feed me a bowl of greens and plug a hose in my side which leads to the methane combustion engine in my eco friendly vehicle...i need to get to town!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Color me vegan&#8230;feed me a bowl of greens and plug a hose in my side which leads to the methane combustion engine in my eco friendly vehicle&#8230;i need to get to town!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JonZed</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-92010</link> <dc:creator>JonZed</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:51:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-92010</guid> <description>Having recently witnessed a cattle \&quot;city\&quot; in Nebraska on a cross-country drive I agree the problem lies not with the cow, but the humans who penned them. A cattle city looks like a bovine Darfur, sans the tents. On the same drive I saw free-range cattle in Wyoming who fed off grasses and were allowed to roam as nature intended.While I cannot advocate strict vegetarianism being one reluctant to give up the luxury of the occasional Neiman-ranch burger, I can definitely side and agree with those who wish to massively reduce our production and consumption of meat. The question is, what will be done to educate the majority that eating meat in the quantities they are used to is unhealthy, and more importantly what will be provided as a healthy, (and tasty) cost-conscious alternative?In the late 1970s a Wisconsin senator pushed the FDA to educate the US populace about over-consumption of Beef, only to have his career destroyed by Big Beef lobbyists. The only concession the FDA made? The creation of the \&quot;food pyramid\&quot; and pushing the meme of \&quot;nutrients\&quot; which to this day are used to mis-educate people regarding the importance of different foods.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having recently witnessed a cattle \&#8221;city\&#8221; in Nebraska on a cross-country drive I agree the problem lies not with the cow, but the humans who penned them. A cattle city looks like a bovine Darfur, sans the tents. On the same drive I saw free-range cattle in Wyoming who fed off grasses and were allowed to roam as nature intended.</p><p>While I cannot advocate strict vegetarianism being one reluctant to give up the luxury of the occasional Neiman-ranch burger, I can definitely side and agree with those who wish to massively reduce our production and consumption of meat. The question is, what will be done to educate the majority that eating meat in the quantities they are used to is unhealthy, and more importantly what will be provided as a healthy, (and tasty) cost-conscious alternative?</p><p>In the late 1970s a Wisconsin senator pushed the FDA to educate the US populace about over-consumption of Beef, only to have his career destroyed by Big Beef lobbyists. The only concession the FDA made? The creation of the \&#8221;food pyramid\&#8221; and pushing the meme of \&#8221;nutrients\&#8221; which to this day are used to mis-educate people regarding the importance of different foods.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Carbon tax</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-91439</link> <dc:creator>Carbon tax</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:38:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-91439</guid> <description>Inhabitat should exercise more ethical judgment in glamorizing this inhumane rubbish!&quot;the hypothesis that some people have a genetic requirement for meat is, at its basis, unscientific. There’s been a lot of work done on nutrition for well over a hundred years; countless nutrients have been identified; countless foods have been analyzed; and there is every ideological predisposition for meat-eating scientists, in a meat-eating society, to identify nutrients that meat has that other foods don’t.Yet despite all this, no necessary nutrient found only in meat has been identified. All the evidence that we have so far indicates that there is no nutrient which any human requires which can only be found in meat. Temple Grandin and the Dalai Lama are in abundant company. Many (perhaps most) people have a vague belief that meat is somehow necessary, at least for them -- that’s why the frenetic slaughter of 300 animals a second is going on worldwide. However, it is not very likely that this is the case.&quot;borrowed from: Keith Akers</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inhabitat should exercise more ethical judgment in glamorizing this inhumane rubbish!</p><p>&#8220;the hypothesis that some people have a genetic requirement for meat is, at its basis, unscientific. There’s been a lot of work done on nutrition for well over a hundred years; countless nutrients have been identified; countless foods have been analyzed; and there is every ideological predisposition for meat-eating scientists, in a meat-eating society, to identify nutrients that meat has that other foods don’t.</p><p>Yet despite all this, no necessary nutrient found only in meat has been identified. All the evidence that we have so far indicates that there is no nutrient which any human requires which can only be found in meat. Temple Grandin and the Dalai Lama are in abundant company. Many (perhaps most) people have a vague belief that meat is somehow necessary, at least for them &#8212; that’s why the frenetic slaughter of 300 animals a second is going on worldwide. However, it is not very likely that this is the case.&#8221;</p><p>borrowed from: Keith Akers</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: klevine</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-91135</link> <dc:creator>klevine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:28:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-91135</guid> <description>I agree with cpine and jeanX.  The problem is not the cows, it&#039;s the people.  It is not fair to punish the cows for our practices.  If I were a cow, I would be very upset if someone put a hose in my stomach and made me carry my excess gas on my back, even if the container is a pretty bright pink.  I would moo, and they probably wouldn&#039;t understand what I was saying, and I&#039;d be forced to carry around this flipping backpack for who knows how long.  But is this a problem at I, as a cow, have created?  No.Cows have always produced methane.  And they always will.  Humans, however, produce the bulk of our noxious gases by choice.  As such, we should not force other species to pay for our choices.  We should instead evaluate our lifestyles.Poor cow indeed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with cpine and jeanX.  The problem is not the cows, it&#8217;s the people.  It is not fair to punish the cows for our practices.  If I were a cow, I would be very upset if someone put a hose in my stomach and made me carry my excess gas on my back, even if the container is a pretty bright pink.  I would moo, and they probably wouldn&#8217;t understand what I was saying, and I&#8217;d be forced to carry around this flipping backpack for who knows how long.  But is this a problem at I, as a cow, have created?  No.</p><p>Cows have always produced methane.  And they always will.  Humans, however, produce the bulk of our noxious gases by choice.  As such, we should not force other species to pay for our choices.  We should instead evaluate our lifestyles.</p><p>Poor cow indeed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fest</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-91126</link> <dc:creator>fest</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-91126</guid> <description>It is the worst idea concerning the ecologie. Make suffer an animal
for CO2? it is dismaying.Do it for you!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the worst idea concerning the ecologie. Make suffer an animal<br
/> for CO2? it is dismaying.Do it for you!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: cpine</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-91001</link> <dc:creator>cpine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:58:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-91001</guid> <description>Poor cow!  They&#039;ve turned it into a walking bomb!  Non-farm types commenting on this....Cows produce methane out their you-knows regardless, because of the way their multiple stomachs digest stuff.  So do people, without the multiple stomachs. So, letting all the existing cattle die back to some ordained level and then upgrading people&#039;s vegan diets will produce -- guess what? More methane-spewing people with more disposable income to overheat the planet in some other fashion!  The problem is too many people, not cows...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor cow!  They&#8217;ve turned it into a walking bomb!  Non-farm types commenting on this&#8230;.Cows produce methane out their you-knows regardless, because of the way their multiple stomachs digest stuff.  So do people, without the multiple stomachs. So, letting all the existing cattle die back to some ordained level and then upgrading people&#8217;s vegan diets will produce &#8212; guess what? More methane-spewing people with more disposable income to overheat the planet in some other fashion!  The problem is too many people, not cows&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jeanX</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-90980</link> <dc:creator>jeanX</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:56:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-90980</guid> <description>This cow has an ostomy?
This is unethical.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This cow has an ostomy?<br
/> This is unethical.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gary</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-90967</link> <dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:09:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-90967</guid> <description>Do you see that streak of filthy, matted hair where the hose is inserted through the cow&#039;s side into it&#039;s stomach? Clairseach is correct that plants don&#039;t make &quot;extra&quot; CO2, but it takes 16lbs (7 kilos) of plants to raise 1 lb (.5 kilo) of beef, so all that grain is raised to very inefficiently create hamburgers. If that grain was used to feed people, we&#039;d need to grow less and raise fewer cows (less methane) and we wouldn&#039;t be raising cows to live short, miserable lives; now with a crazy backpack and a hose stuck through a hole in their side. greymasse is justifiably defensive about an ethic based on nothing more than what his or her mouth wants.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you see that streak of filthy, matted hair where the hose is inserted through the cow&#8217;s side into it&#8217;s stomach? Clairseach is correct that plants don&#8217;t make &#8220;extra&#8221; CO2, but it takes 16lbs (7 kilos) of plants to raise 1 lb (.5 kilo) of beef, so all that grain is raised to very inefficiently create hamburgers. If that grain was used to feed people, we&#8217;d need to grow less and raise fewer cows (less methane) and we wouldn&#8217;t be raising cows to live short, miserable lives; now with a crazy backpack and a hose stuck through a hole in their side. greymasse is justifiably defensive about an ethic based on nothing more than what his or her mouth wants.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chys</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-90964</link> <dc:creator>Chys</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:04:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-90964</guid> <description>People, let me enlighten you a little bit. In Argentina less than 5% of the cows are fed in feed lots. Cows are fed mainly by grass in the open field. Usualy cows are brouth to the field where there used to be something planted, so they can fertalice the ground again.
And Clairsearch, nobody talked about CO2, we are talking about Methane.
I think this is a good initiative.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People, let me enlighten you a little bit. In Argentina less than 5% of the cows are fed in feed lots. Cows are fed mainly by grass in the open field. Usualy cows are brouth to the field where there used to be something planted, so they can fertalice the ground again.<br
/> And Clairsearch, nobody talked about CO2, we are talking about Methane.<br
/> I think this is a good initiative.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: greymase</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-90959</link> <dc:creator>greymase</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:29:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-90959</guid> <description>clairseach, you raise a point I\\\&#039;ve been noodling around for awhile - especially since I\\\&#039;ve been counseled to give up cheeseburgers for the planet: if the cows don\\\&#039;t eat the grass (or other biological material) grown on a specified plot, won\\\&#039;t some other organism do so and convert the stored carbon into carbon dioxide or methane in similar, if not identical amounts? It would seem that the growth of a given plot would decompose and release whatever it captures, unless it is buried or otherwise isolated from decomposition.I am otherwise extremely green, and fairly well versed in alternate energy sciences, but have to admit, I don\\\&#039;t know this bit - and I am hungry for a burger!(PS - Please do not berate me for using a food product that takes more resources and that we could feed more people if I were vegetarian instead...hate me if you will, but more people on the planet is not part of my personal mission. We may differ, but that\\\&#039;s my view after due consideration.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clairseach, you raise a point I\\\&#8217;ve been noodling around for awhile &#8211; especially since I\\\&#8217;ve been counseled to give up cheeseburgers for the planet: if the cows don\\\&#8217;t eat the grass (or other biological material) grown on a specified plot, won\\\&#8217;t some other organism do so and convert the stored carbon into carbon dioxide or methane in similar, if not identical amounts? It would seem that the growth of a given plot would decompose and release whatever it captures, unless it is buried or otherwise isolated from decomposition.</p><p>I am otherwise extremely green, and fairly well versed in alternate energy sciences, but have to admit, I don\\\&#8217;t know this bit &#8211; and I am hungry for a burger!</p><p>(PS &#8211; Please do not berate me for using a food product that takes more resources and that we could feed more people if I were vegetarian instead&#8230;hate me if you will, but more people on the planet is not part of my personal mission. We may differ, but that\\\&#8217;s my view after due consideration.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: clairseach</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-90810</link> <dc:creator>clairseach</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:29:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-90810</guid> <description>The only way you can add CO2 to the atmosphere is by burning fossil fuels.  Plants and animals are part of a closed system and can&#039;t  *add* CO2.  People really don&#039;t seem to understand this for some reason.It&#039;s ironic that this comes from Argentina where as a rule, cattle is grass fed and mostly organic with feedlots being a recent addition.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way you can add CO2 to the atmosphere is by burning fossil fuels.  Plants and animals are part of a closed system and can&#8217;t  *add* CO2.  People really don&#8217;t seem to understand this for some reason.</p><p>It&#8217;s ironic that this comes from Argentina where as a rule, cattle is grass fed and mostly organic with feedlots being a recent addition.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: eightdouble</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-90784</link> <dc:creator>eightdouble</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:34:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-90784</guid> <description>mia, i think you may be reverse engineering the problem as well.adopting a plant based diet is the real engineering solution here. even without considering the greenhouse gases it makes ecological sense. from water used in beef production to the number of people we could feed in the world if we didn&#039;t cycle our grain through livestock, then eat the livestock. people need to realize that vegetarianism is environmentalism.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mia, i think you may be reverse engineering the problem as well.</p><p>adopting a plant based diet is the real engineering solution here. even without considering the greenhouse gases it makes ecological sense. from water used in beef production to the number of people we could feed in the world if we didn&#8217;t cycle our grain through livestock, then eat the livestock. people need to realize that vegetarianism is environmentalism.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mia</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/comment-page-1/#comment-90761</link> <dc:creator>Mia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:22:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/07/24/spiffy-backpack-traps-bovine-gas/#comment-90761</guid> <description>The best way to combat this problem is to go back to pasture-raised beef.  The real problem is that we are concentrating the animals on feed lots where they are fed grain -- particularly corn.  Cows were meant to eat GRASS, and that\\\&#039;s why it is so hard for them to digest corn, and hence the gas (not to mention copious other health problems, but that\\\&#039;s another story).   This project sounds a lot like reverse-engineering a problem that we created ourselves.  Why not just go back to the way nature meant it to be?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to combat this problem is to go back to pasture-raised beef.  The real problem is that we are concentrating the animals on feed lots where they are fed grain &#8212; particularly corn.  Cows were meant to eat GRASS, and that\\\&#8217;s why it is so hard for them to digest corn, and hence the gas (not to mention copious other health problems, but that\\\&#8217;s another story).   This project sounds a lot like reverse-engineering a problem that we created ourselves.  Why not just go back to the way nature meant it to be?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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