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> <channel><title>Comments on: Sahara Forest Project Converts Desert into Oasis</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/</link> <description>Future-forward design for the world you inhabit</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:27:43 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Leon</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-105704</link> <dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:30:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-105704</guid> <description>Does anybody know whether the project is represented at the Horti Fair in Amsterdam?
Leon</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody know whether the project is represented at the Horti Fair in Amsterdam?<br
/> Leon</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shant</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-104694</link> <dc:creator>Shant</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:33:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-104694</guid> <description>Before the the skepticism hits, I would just like to say this is a really cool idea to irrigate deserts if the benefit outweighs the cost, which it does with these plans.My friend and I built a machine in our backyard whose capacity of converting seawater (or any water) into pure water beats the rates given by the Seawater Greenhouses 16 fold.  I did my calculations based on our rate of 15 gallons per hour and converted over to their claim of 1,000,000 gallons of water a day over a land mass of 10,000 hectares.  My machine is about 6 square feet and runs off the sun (plenty in the deserts) and even works at night because the water stores a lot of heat.Anyways, I&#039;m trying to get a hold of the &quot;trio of entrepeneurs&quot; to pitch my idea.  Anybody know who they are and how to contact them?   I emailed Patton, but no response.  They must be pretty busy.  I need to hurry up before they spill a lot of money on something and then realize there is a cheaper way.Thanks,
Shant</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before the the skepticism hits, I would just like to say this is a really cool idea to irrigate deserts if the benefit outweighs the cost, which it does with these plans.</p><p>My friend and I built a machine in our backyard whose capacity of converting seawater (or any water) into pure water beats the rates given by the Seawater Greenhouses 16 fold.  I did my calculations based on our rate of 15 gallons per hour and converted over to their claim of 1,000,000 gallons of water a day over a land mass of 10,000 hectares.  My machine is about 6 square feet and runs off the sun (plenty in the deserts) and even works at night because the water stores a lot of heat.</p><p>Anyways, I&#8217;m trying to get a hold of the &#8220;trio of entrepeneurs&#8221; to pitch my idea.  Anybody know who they are and how to contact them?   I emailed Patton, but no response.  They must be pretty busy.  I need to hurry up before they spill a lot of money on something and then realize there is a cheaper way.</p><p>Thanks,<br
/> Shant</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: igloodesigndecor</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-102462</link> <dc:creator>igloodesigndecor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:54:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-102462</guid> <description>interesting, at least there is something we can do in the dessert for people who live there altough maybe they have their own life style</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting, at least there is something we can do in the dessert for people who live there altough maybe they have their own life style</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: chrpapa</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-102072</link> <dc:creator>chrpapa</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:27:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-102072</guid> <description>The project is feasible but the best technology for its application is the Floating Solar Chimney technology (www.floatingsolarchimney.gr ) and not CSP technology , that demands a lot of water for cleaning and cooling its mirrors.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The project is feasible but the best technology for its application is the Floating Solar Chimney technology (www.floatingsolarchimney.gr ) and not CSP technology , that demands a lot of water for cleaning and cooling its mirrors.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Inhabitat &#187; The Superstar: Self-Sustaining City of the Future</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-100878</link> <dc:creator>Inhabitat &#187; The Superstar: Self-Sustaining City of the Future</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:02:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-100878</guid> <description>[...] named Superstar is a completely self-sustaining city that is capable of producing all of its own power and food while recycling all of its waste. Conceived as a future-forward update to the contemporary [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] named Superstar is a completely self-sustaining city that is capable of producing all of its own power and food while recycling all of its waste. Conceived as a future-forward update to the contemporary [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fred</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-99579</link> <dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:27:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-99579</guid> <description>I don&#039;t agree with Jona. Sure, if we look at these plans from a short term point of veiw,  it will not always be a good idea. it doesn&#039;t like a market plan which can be forecasted easyily. However, that&#039;s definitely a trend to consider the problem of future energy. Therefore, the nature, the world necessitate our people to think about it,  even it is a plan for 100 years later,  That&#039;s the meaning of sustainable development.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with Jona. Sure, if we look at these plans from a short term point of veiw,  it will not always be a good idea. it doesn&#8217;t like a market plan which can be forecasted easyily. However, that&#8217;s definitely a trend to consider the problem of future energy. Therefore, the nature, the world necessitate our people to think about it,  even it is a plan for 100 years later,  That&#8217;s the meaning of sustainable development.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dixon1e</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-99574</link> <dc:creator>dixon1e</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:46:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-99574</guid> <description>Well Jona, though it is trite to post this quote, I will post it anyway, because I must:The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.George Bernard ShawFar from being doomed to failure, each individual attempt at this project builds pieces of success for the next team to learn from.  Witness the failure of the first Panama canal, versus the success of the second.  Far too many rejected the project as impossible in the first place and reveled in the failure of the first French attempt.  Yet this attempt discovered where the weak planning points were, and showed others the ultimate road to success.With a reminder that both Panama Canal attempts surely cost over 30,000 lives, one cannot help but side with human history, and so also with these dreamers.  Support them, even through their failures, I say.  They will eventually get it right, but humanity will never learn how unless the brave fools try.  And try they will, _because_ they are unreasonable.  Perhaps those who get in their way are the real fools.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Jona, though it is trite to post this quote, I will post it anyway, because I must:</p><p>The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.</p><p>George Bernard Shaw</p><p>Far from being doomed to failure, each individual attempt at this project builds pieces of success for the next team to learn from.  Witness the failure of the first Panama canal, versus the success of the second.  Far too many rejected the project as impossible in the first place and reveled in the failure of the first French attempt.  Yet this attempt discovered where the weak planning points were, and showed others the ultimate road to success.</p><p>With a reminder that both Panama Canal attempts surely cost over 30,000 lives, one cannot help but side with human history, and so also with these dreamers.  Support them, even through their failures, I say.  They will eventually get it right, but humanity will never learn how unless the brave fools try.  And try they will, _because_ they are unreasonable.  Perhaps those who get in their way are the real fools.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: postdomesticated</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-99332</link> <dc:creator>postdomesticated</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:20:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-99332</guid> <description>The following link points to a YouTube video on Greening The Desert with Permaculture Techniques.  It is basically an integrated application of Jona\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\&#039;s suggestions: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\&quot;micro-management of erosion and desertification, biochar soil enhancement, small reforestation efforts, irrigation infrastructures and water storage technologies\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sohI6vnWZmk</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following link points to a YouTube video on Greening The Desert with Permaculture Techniques.  It is basically an integrated application of Jona\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\&#8217;s suggestions: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\&#8221;micro-management of erosion and desertification, biochar soil enhancement, small reforestation efforts, irrigation infrastructures and water storage technologies\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\&#8221;</p><p><a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sohI6vnWZmk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sohI6vnWZmk</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: thejimgaudet</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-99328</link> <dc:creator>thejimgaudet</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:39:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-99328</guid> <description>Eventually everyone will get the idea that this is a better way of doing things.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually everyone will get the idea that this is a better way of doing things.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jona</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-99224</link> <dc:creator>Jona</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:29:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-99224</guid> <description>Sigh, yet another green the desert plan. There are so many of them. You will never get the electricity out of the Sahara to useful places at a competitive cost, and you will never get Sahelians to buy food that costs 10 times as much as the food they produce themselves.It\\\&#039;s a nice fantasy, and \\\&quot;greening the desert\\\&quot; is good to think with. But expect no practical solutions. What the small populations in the Sahel really need is micro-management of erosion and desertification, biochar soil enhancement, small reforestation efforts, irrigation infrastructures and water storage technologies.The EU has its \\\&quot;Green Wall for the Sahara\\\&quot; project (Google it), and there is DESERTEC (integrated with desalination and agriculture) to bring electricity from CSP to Europe, but these plans are decades old and too difficult to pull of because of political and social reasons. They\\\&#039;re also way too costly.Greening the desert will forever remain a concept.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh, yet another green the desert plan. There are so many of them. You will never get the electricity out of the Sahara to useful places at a competitive cost, and you will never get Sahelians to buy food that costs 10 times as much as the food they produce themselves.</p><p>It\\\&#8217;s a nice fantasy, and \\\&#8221;greening the desert\\\&#8221; is good to think with. But expect no practical solutions. What the small populations in the Sahel really need is micro-management of erosion and desertification, biochar soil enhancement, small reforestation efforts, irrigation infrastructures and water storage technologies.</p><p>The EU has its \\\&#8221;Green Wall for the Sahara\\\&#8221; project (Google it), and there is DESERTEC (integrated with desalination and agriculture) to bring electricity from CSP to Europe, but these plans are decades old and too difficult to pull of because of political and social reasons. They\\\&#8217;re also way too costly.</p><p>Greening the desert will forever remain a concept.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kasper</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/comment-page-1/#comment-99184</link> <dc:creator>kasper</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:17:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/04/sahara-forest-project/#comment-99184</guid> <description>brilliant. make it. now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brilliant. make it. now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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