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> <channel><title>Comments on: SG Blocks Container House Debuts at West Coast Green</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/</link> <description>Future-forward design for the world you inhabit</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:48:56 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: lwthomas_98</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-148455</link> <dc:creator>lwthomas_98</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:43:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-148455</guid> <description>I was stationed in Afghanistan just a few months ago, and all of our rooms were made out of conex boxes (shipping containers). I was impressed with what they had done to make these usable living spaces. Being there in the summer (temps 125) and the winter (temps -10), they were very comfortable. I would highly consider buying a home made out of this material.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was stationed in Afghanistan just a few months ago, and all of our rooms were made out of conex boxes (shipping containers). I was impressed with what they had done to make these usable living spaces. Being there in the summer (temps 125) and the winter (temps -10), they were very comfortable. I would highly consider buying a home made out of this material.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: zannemclean</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-110114</link> <dc:creator>zannemclean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:49:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-110114</guid> <description>You can see floor plans here: http://www.thelawrencegroup.com/portfolio/architecture/sustainableDesign/portfolio_westcoastgreen.html
Click on the pictures of the houses and each floor plan will come up.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can see floor plans here: <a
href="http://www.thelawrencegroup.com/portfolio/architecture/sustainableDesign/portfolio_westcoastgreen.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thelawrencegroup.com/portfolio/architecture/sustainableDesign/portfolio_westcoastgreen.html</a><br
/> Click on the pictures of the houses and each floor plan will come up.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JohnJ</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-109729</link> <dc:creator>JohnJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:27:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-109729</guid> <description>The biggest difficulty I&#039;ve seen seems to be convincing local authorities that these can exceed code, but they don&#039;t understand how to compare apples to oranges (or steel to wood, or ceramic to fiberglass...)Where does one get validated equivalents for thermal insulation, fire spread, and wind resistance?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest difficulty I&#8217;ve seen seems to be convincing local authorities that these can exceed code, but they don&#8217;t understand how to compare apples to oranges (or steel to wood, or ceramic to fiberglass&#8230;)</p><p>Where does one get validated equivalents for thermal insulation, fire spread, and wind resistance?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Malc</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-108224</link> <dc:creator>Malc</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:17:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-108224</guid> <description>Dane,To answer your question about the R-Value of shipping containers. Simple answer is that Shipping containers use a ceramic spray on application called SuperTherm, which with one coat used on the interior and exterior has the equivelent R-Value of 28.5 compared to 6 inches of Fiberglass with R-19.A more complex answer which can be found by googling Bob Vila + Shipping Container reveals that. Unlike fiberglass whose R-value rating assumes heat loading by a building and simply measures the rate at which that heat is transferred—ceramic coatings are not given an R-value rating. Instead, they are measured by their emissivity. Emissivity measures both the ability to reflect heat and the amount of heat that is loaded onto a surface. The concept is simple: Why use fiberglass insulation to slow the transfer of heat into a building when you can just prevent that heat from ever loading onto the building in the first place? If heat is kept off the structure to begin with, that fiberglass insulation becomes unnecessary.Some ceramic coatings feature additional properties, like preventing moisture migration. Some structures see up to 25 percent of HVAC costs coming from dehumidification needs, but a ceramic coating can also bring savings through moisture management. Additional features can include mold and mildew control, sound attenuation properties, and fire resistance.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dane,</p><p>To answer your question about the R-Value of shipping containers. Simple answer is that Shipping containers use a ceramic spray on application called SuperTherm, which with one coat used on the interior and exterior has the equivelent R-Value of 28.5 compared to 6 inches of Fiberglass with R-19.</p><p>A more complex answer which can be found by googling Bob Vila + Shipping Container reveals that. Unlike fiberglass whose R-value rating assumes heat loading by a building and simply measures the rate at which that heat is transferred—ceramic coatings are not given an R-value rating. Instead, they are measured by their emissivity. Emissivity measures both the ability to reflect heat and the amount of heat that is loaded onto a surface. The concept is simple: Why use fiberglass insulation to slow the transfer of heat into a building when you can just prevent that heat from ever loading onto the building in the first place? If heat is kept off the structure to begin with, that fiberglass insulation becomes unnecessary.</p><p>Some ceramic coatings feature additional properties, like preventing moisture migration. Some structures see up to 25 percent of HVAC costs coming from dehumidification needs, but a ceramic coating can also bring savings through moisture management. Additional features can include mold and mildew control, sound attenuation properties, and fire resistance.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: davidmsmith</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-104772</link> <dc:creator>davidmsmith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:15:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-104772</guid> <description>If all you want is a cute cube, Pre-fab is the answer, and for a lot less money. View Transcon Steel Website: www.transconsteel.com</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all you want is a cute cube, Pre-fab is the answer, and for a lot less money. View Transcon Steel Website: <a
href="http://www.transconsteel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.transconsteel.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: davidmsmith</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-104769</link> <dc:creator>davidmsmith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:03:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-104769</guid> <description>Sounds and looks good. However, if all you&#039;re looking for is a cute cube, that can be achieved though prefab and for a lot less money. Let your imagination run a muck. View www.transconsteel.com</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds and looks good. However, if all you&#8217;re looking for is a cute cube, that can be achieved though prefab and for a lot less money. Let your imagination run a muck. View <a
href="http://www.transconsteel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.transconsteel.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dane</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-104763</link> <dc:creator>Dane</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:36:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-104763</guid> <description>I am all for the container house concept.  What I find lacking in every one that I see however, is INSULATION.  It makes little sense to use recycled material to build a house only to blow those carbon savings out the window trying to heat and cool the place.  Can someone, anyone, tell me what sort of R-value these things achieve?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all for the container house concept.  What I find lacking in every one that I see however, is INSULATION.  It makes little sense to use recycled material to build a house only to blow those carbon savings out the window trying to heat and cool the place.  Can someone, anyone, tell me what sort of R-value these things achieve?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: antkm1</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-104143</link> <dc:creator>antkm1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:29:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-104143</guid> <description>The house will be up for sale once it does the tour of Green conventinos.  This was based on West Coast pricing.  It may be cheaper in other markets; cost of labor varies from state to state.Another aspect I need to comment on is the cost of the high-end materials that went into this house.  Nanawall is not cheap my friends.  I was told those two segments of Nanawall cost $30,000+  and the Marvin windows were around $25k-$30k; so you&#039;re talking about $50k-$60k just in windows.  This showhouse was designed with all the bells and whistles, that&#039;s typically what showhouses are for.  The house can and will be built for less and have a simlar of not the same look.  In comparison, Michelle Kaufmann&#039;s house from last year cost roughly $350/s.f. to build.  So this house is considerably cheaper to build from comparision to last year.One other aspect to this house with regards to saving money is that you save in labor time.  When you build a house on a site, the contractor has site managment costs and bills the owner for his/her time building the house.  Since SG Blocks can be pre-fabed, it takes considerably less time on site to finish (around 15% less time).  This show house was assembled in just under 5 hours and took 4 weeks to build from the time they got the raw containers to the time is was finsihed at the show.So, before we continue this discussion about the priorities of architects and builders, just keep these few points in mind.  Plus, one person&#039;s definition of affordable may be compeltely different than another&#039;s.  Look at the comapny call &quot;Design Within Reach&quot;...perfect example.   The Harbinger is not a house for Habitat for Humanity nor is it it a HUD house.  It is a house that could very easily be affordable to a low to moderate income family.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The house will be up for sale once it does the tour of Green conventinos.  This was based on West Coast pricing.  It may be cheaper in other markets; cost of labor varies from state to state.</p><p>Another aspect I need to comment on is the cost of the high-end materials that went into this house.  Nanawall is not cheap my friends.  I was told those two segments of Nanawall cost $30,000+  and the Marvin windows were around $25k-$30k; so you&#8217;re talking about $50k-$60k just in windows.  This showhouse was designed with all the bells and whistles, that&#8217;s typically what showhouses are for.  The house can and will be built for less and have a simlar of not the same look.  In comparison, Michelle Kaufmann&#8217;s house from last year cost roughly $350/s.f. to build.  So this house is considerably cheaper to build from comparision to last year.</p><p>One other aspect to this house with regards to saving money is that you save in labor time.  When you build a house on a site, the contractor has site managment costs and bills the owner for his/her time building the house.  Since SG Blocks can be pre-fabed, it takes considerably less time on site to finish (around 15% less time).  This show house was assembled in just under 5 hours and took 4 weeks to build from the time they got the raw containers to the time is was finsihed at the show.</p><p>So, before we continue this discussion about the priorities of architects and builders, just keep these few points in mind.  Plus, one person&#8217;s definition of affordable may be compeltely different than another&#8217;s.  Look at the comapny call &#8220;Design Within Reach&#8221;&#8230;perfect example.   The Harbinger is not a house for Habitat for Humanity nor is it it a HUD house.  It is a house that could very easily be affordable to a low to moderate income family.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bing</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-103567</link> <dc:creator>bing</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:15:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-103567</guid> <description>The West Coast Green Show website lists the Harbinger house as a 1700 sqft two-story home. At the above quote of $150 psf, that\&#039;s $255,000. I love the looks, I love the prefab concept, I love the use of shipping containers, but come on: a quarter mil for a 1700 sqft prefab in a downmarket economy?We must, and certainly can, dramatically lower these prices below stick-built or we\&#039;re just playing at prefab, running through a fad of which your successful clientele will soon tire.Prefab architects: is your goal to make a lot of money off a few models sold or to truly change the residential landscape through a mass infusion of great, sustainable design? Is there anyone left with higher ideals?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The West Coast Green Show website lists the Harbinger house as a 1700 sqft two-story home. At the above quote of $150 psf, that\&#8217;s $255,000. I love the looks, I love the prefab concept, I love the use of shipping containers, but come on: a quarter mil for a 1700 sqft prefab in a downmarket economy?</p><p>We must, and certainly can, dramatically lower these prices below stick-built or we\&#8217;re just playing at prefab, running through a fad of which your successful clientele will soon tire.</p><p>Prefab architects: is your goal to make a lot of money off a few models sold or to truly change the residential landscape through a mass infusion of great, sustainable design? Is there anyone left with higher ideals?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SG Blocks Container House - Made of Shipping Containers&#160;&#124;&#160;Bedroomed.com</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-103549</link> <dc:creator>SG Blocks Container House - Made of Shipping Containers&#160;&#124;&#160;Bedroomed.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:29:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-103549</guid> <description>[...] O&#173;t&#173;her&#173; t&#173;han&#173; all t&#173;hese it&#173; also&#173; uses an&#173; Ag&#173;ilewaves r&#173;eso&#173;ur&#173;c&#173;e mo&#173;n&#173;it&#173;o&#173;r&#173;in&#173;g&#173; sy&#173;st&#173;em whic&#173;h is a web-based applic&#173;at&#173;io&#173;n&#173; t&#173;hat&#173; ac&#173;t&#173;ively&#173; mo&#173;n&#173;it&#173;o&#173;r&#173;s r&#173;eal-t&#173;ime elec&#173;t&#173;r&#173;ic&#173;, g&#173;as an&#173;d wat&#173;er&#173; usag&#173;e an&#173;d t&#173;hen&#173; c&#173;alc&#173;ulat&#173;es t&#173;he c&#173;ar&#173;bo&#173;n&#173; f&#173;o&#173;o&#173;t&#173;pr&#173;in&#173;t&#173;. But&#173; t&#173;he SG&#173; Bloc&#173;k&#173;s con&#173;&#173;tain&#173;&#173;e&#173;r&#173; h&#173;ou&#173;se&#173; is n&#173;&#173;ot on&#173;&#173;l&#173;y&#173; h&#173;igh&#173;l&#173;y&#173; su&#173;stain&#173;&#173;ab&#173;l&#173;e&#173; b&#173;u&#173;t can&#173;&#173; al&#173;so with&#173;stan&#173;&#173;d h&#173;u&#173;r&#173;r&#173;ican&#173;&#173;e&#173;s in&#173;&#173; Fl&#173;or&#173;ida an&#173;&#173;d e&#173;ar&#173;th&#173;qu&#173;ake&#173;s in&#173;&#173; Cal&#173;ifor&#173;n&#173;&#173;ia, th&#173;an&#173;&#173;ks to its du&#173;r&#173;ab&#173;l&#173;e&#173; ste&#173;e&#173;l&#173; e&#173;n&#173;&#173;ve&#173;l&#173;ope&#173;. Ju&#173;st for&#173; th&#173;e&#173; r&#173;e&#173;cor&#173;d &#8230; it took th&#173;e&#173;m 1 mon&#173;&#173;th&#173; to do th&#173;e&#173; pr&#173;e&#173;fab&#173; an&#173;&#173;d on&#173;&#173;l&#173;y&#173; 4 h&#173;ou&#173;r&#173;s an&#173;&#173;d 47 min&#173;&#173;u&#173;te&#173;s to in&#173;&#173;stal&#173;l&#173; it at th&#173;e&#173; e&#173;x&#173;po. - via Inh&#173;ab&#173;itat [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] O&#173;t&#173;her&#173; t&#173;han&#173; all t&#173;hese it&#173; also&#173; uses an&#173; Ag&#173;ilewaves r&#173;eso&#173;ur&#173;c&#173;e mo&#173;n&#173;it&#173;o&#173;r&#173;in&#173;g&#173; sy&#173;st&#173;em whic&#173;h is a web-based applic&#173;at&#173;io&#173;n&#173; t&#173;hat&#173; ac&#173;t&#173;ively&#173; mo&#173;n&#173;it&#173;o&#173;r&#173;s r&#173;eal-t&#173;ime elec&#173;t&#173;r&#173;ic&#173;, g&#173;as an&#173;d wat&#173;er&#173; usag&#173;e an&#173;d t&#173;hen&#173; c&#173;alc&#173;ulat&#173;es t&#173;he c&#173;ar&#173;bo&#173;n&#173; f&#173;o&#173;o&#173;t&#173;pr&#173;in&#173;t&#173;. But&#173; t&#173;he SG&#173; Bloc&#173;k&#173;s con&#173;&#173;tain&#173;&#173;e&#173;r&#173; h&#173;ou&#173;se&#173; is n&#173;&#173;ot on&#173;&#173;l&#173;y&#173; h&#173;igh&#173;l&#173;y&#173; su&#173;stain&#173;&#173;ab&#173;l&#173;e&#173; b&#173;u&#173;t can&#173;&#173; al&#173;so with&#173;stan&#173;&#173;d h&#173;u&#173;r&#173;r&#173;ican&#173;&#173;e&#173;s in&#173;&#173; Fl&#173;or&#173;ida an&#173;&#173;d e&#173;ar&#173;th&#173;qu&#173;ake&#173;s in&#173;&#173; Cal&#173;ifor&#173;n&#173;&#173;ia, th&#173;an&#173;&#173;ks to its du&#173;r&#173;ab&#173;l&#173;e&#173; ste&#173;e&#173;l&#173; e&#173;n&#173;&#173;ve&#173;l&#173;ope&#173;. Ju&#173;st for&#173; th&#173;e&#173; r&#173;e&#173;cor&#173;d &#8230; it took th&#173;e&#173;m 1 mon&#173;&#173;th&#173; to do th&#173;e&#173; pr&#173;e&#173;fab&#173; an&#173;&#173;d on&#173;&#173;l&#173;y&#173; 4 h&#173;ou&#173;r&#173;s an&#173;&#173;d 47 min&#173;&#173;u&#173;te&#173;s to in&#173;&#173;stal&#173;l&#173; it at th&#173;e&#173; e&#173;x&#173;po. &#8211; via Inh&#173;ab&#173;itat [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: da</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-103475</link> <dc:creator>da</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:53:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-103475</guid> <description>Umm...this is a very nice house and all, but I don&#039;t see any actual shipping containers. Did they re-clad the entire house after building it?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230;this is a very nice house and all, but I don&#8217;t see any actual shipping containers. Did they re-clad the entire house after building it?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: antkm1</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-103293</link> <dc:creator>antkm1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-103293</guid> <description>the floor plans for the house can be found if you follow the links for Lawrence Group in thier projects under sustainability. You can also find them and all the other 11 designs in West Coast Green&#039;s website www.westcoastgreen.com.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the floor plans for the house can be found if you follow the links for Lawrence Group in thier projects under sustainability. You can also find them and all the other 11 designs in West Coast Green&#8217;s website <a
href="http://www.westcoastgreen.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.westcoastgreen.com</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: phrancis</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-103205</link> <dc:creator>phrancis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:59:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-103205</guid> <description>Wow, that&#039;s the best looking shipping container house yet!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s the best looking shipping container house yet!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brian Lang</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/comment-page-1/#comment-103204</link> <dc:creator>Brian Lang</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:58:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/09/25/sg-blocks-harbinger-house/#comment-103204</guid> <description>Can you please post a floor plan and total square footage and total cost for this house? Thanks.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you please post a floor plan and total square footage and total cost for this house? Thanks.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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