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> <channel><title>Comments on: SunCat: Solar Batteries Powered by Sunshine</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/</link> <description>Future-forward design for the world you inhabit</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:34:26 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: fjk</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-170911</link> <dc:creator>fjk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:51:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-170911</guid> <description>Solar panels ought ot be placed where optimum charge is archieved. The shape and location of the panels on the batteries themselves does not seem optimal. Also &#039;gmoke&#039; sun in not only in north. The predominant location of the sun depends on the hemisphere/latitude at which you are located. Ie sun is generally in the north for those countries in southern hemisphere.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar panels ought ot be placed where optimum charge is archieved. The shape and location of the panels on the batteries themselves does not seem optimal. Also &#8216;gmoke&#8217; sun in not only in north. The predominant location of the sun depends on the hemisphere/latitude at which you are located. Ie sun is generally in the north for those countries in southern hemisphere.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: madwaxer</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-140829</link> <dc:creator>madwaxer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:26:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-140829</guid> <description>now use some ultra capacitors and woha!
me want 3Million of these on the roof of my house, under a bullet proof glass sheet in mineral oil. (to stay cool)
hmm might need a bigger house!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now use some ultra capacitors and woha!<br
/> me want 3Million of these on the roof of my house, under a bullet proof glass sheet in mineral oil. (to stay cool)<br
/> hmm might need a bigger house!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Taz Abas</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-119383</link> <dc:creator>Taz Abas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:32:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-119383</guid> <description>We are manufacturers of various products that utalizes AA Batteries. We are interested to purchase CunCat Solar Rechargable battaeries.Please contact me.
Taz Abas
drabas@payplusco.com
213-252-4433</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are manufacturers of various products that utalizes AA Batteries. We are interested to purchase CunCat Solar Rechargable battaeries.</p><p>Please contact me.<br
/> Taz Abas<br
/> <a
href="mailto:drabas@payplusco.com">drabas@payplusco.com</a><br
/> 213-252-4433</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Zaphraud</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-118842</link> <dc:creator>Zaphraud</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:14:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-118842</guid> <description>Assume a 10% solar efficiency, which from what I understand is a little generous, but still... now, look at the maximum cross-sectional area that the side of the battery can present to the sun* and the solar power per square meter, and feed all that into Google calculator:1000 watts/meter^2 * 1.9 inch * 1 inch * .10 =  0.1225804 wattsProbably enough that a good design could prevent loss thru self-discharge.Of course, as an actual Arizona resident, the first thing that comes to mind is the fact that its a profoundly bad idea to leave any type of battery in direct sunlight for extended periods of time. It really wears them out!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assume a 10% solar efficiency, which from what I understand is a little generous, but still&#8230; now, look at the maximum cross-sectional area that the side of the battery can present to the sun* and the solar power per square meter, and feed all that into Google calculator:</p><p>1000 watts/meter^2 * 1.9 inch * 1 inch * .10 =  0.1225804 watts</p><p>Probably enough that a good design could prevent loss thru self-discharge.</p><p>Of course, as an actual Arizona resident, the first thing that comes to mind is the fact that its a profoundly bad idea to leave any type of battery in direct sunlight for extended periods of time. It really wears them out!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mdf</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-118207</link> <dc:creator>mdf</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:35:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-118207</guid> <description>Off by a full 3 orders of magnitude!  How embarrassing.  Ah well.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off by a full 3 orders of magnitude!  How embarrassing.  Ah well.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mdf</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-118203</link> <dc:creator>mdf</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:05:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-118203</guid> <description>The idea seems cool ... until some arithmetic is done.The area of a C cell (excluding the end-caps of the cylinder) is about 0.004 square metres.  So if the panel had perfect efficiency, and you illuminated it all with a full Arizona sun (~1000W/m^2), this battery would collect about 4mW of power.  A typical NiMH today is about 2.9Ah, or about 3700mWh of energy (this is probably a high estimate, but not by much).  So we can expect a total charge time of about 3700/4 = 925 hours = 38 days.  The sun doesn&#039;t shine for 24 hours -- even in Arizona -- so this 38 days is going to be more like 80 or 90 days in reality.  Add in the fact only half of the cylinder is under illumination, and the circular geometry says reduces this by half again (cosine), and that the panel is going to be about 15% efficient, it looks like it&#039;s going to take a several years to recharge the battery.In essence, the average rate is about 0.1mW of power.However, NiMH have a fairly high self-discharge rate of about 1% per day, after about a 5-10% drop on the first day (from a fully charged battery).  Ignore the first day, we have: 3700*.01 = 37mWh loss/24hours = 1.5mW average.  A discharge rate in excess of the trickle charge rate from these solar panels, suggesting the panel can&#039;t even maintain the charge on a fully charged battery.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea seems cool &#8230; until some arithmetic is done.</p><p>The area of a C cell (excluding the end-caps of the cylinder) is about 0.004 square metres.  So if the panel had perfect efficiency, and you illuminated it all with a full Arizona sun (~1000W/m^2), this battery would collect about 4mW of power.  A typical NiMH today is about 2.9Ah, or about 3700mWh of energy (this is probably a high estimate, but not by much).  So we can expect a total charge time of about 3700/4 = 925 hours = 38 days.  The sun doesn&#8217;t shine for 24 hours &#8212; even in Arizona &#8212; so this 38 days is going to be more like 80 or 90 days in reality.  Add in the fact only half of the cylinder is under illumination, and the circular geometry says reduces this by half again (cosine), and that the panel is going to be about 15% efficient, it looks like it&#8217;s going to take a several years to recharge the battery.</p><p>In essence, the average rate is about 0.1mW of power.</p><p>However, NiMH have a fairly high self-discharge rate of about 1% per day, after about a 5-10% drop on the first day (from a fully charged battery).  Ignore the first day, we have: 3700*.01 = 37mWh loss/24hours = 1.5mW average.  A discharge rate in excess of the trickle charge rate from these solar panels, suggesting the panel can&#8217;t even maintain the charge on a fully charged battery.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pilhas solares produzidas pela Eco-Knut - SunCat : Vorty.com</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-118112</link> <dc:creator>Pilhas solares produzidas pela Eco-Knut - SunCat : Vorty.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:02:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-118112</guid> <description>[...] quiser ler mais sobre o tema, visite o site inhabitat.   Rentabilize o seu site com a [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] quiser ler mais sobre o tema, visite o site inhabitat.   Rentabilize o seu site com a [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SunCats: Rechargeable Solar Batteries By Knut Karlsen &#124; Trends Updates</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-118058</link> <dc:creator>SunCats: Rechargeable Solar Batteries By Knut Karlsen &#124; Trends Updates</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:40:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-118058</guid> <description>[...] Inhabitat         RSS Feed Subscribe by Email [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Inhabitat         RSS Feed Subscribe by Email [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lucky Archer</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-118034</link> <dc:creator>Lucky Archer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:53:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-118034</guid> <description>YES! This is a brilliant idea. Bravo. Two thumbs up. (Y) (Y)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES! This is a brilliant idea. Bravo. Two thumbs up. (Y) (Y)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: angie717</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-117979</link> <dc:creator>angie717</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:14:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-117979</guid> <description>I like the idea of this solar-powered battery.  Maybe one day someone would go a big step further (this may be a dumb idea, I&#039;m not a science genius) and put a solar panel on a car battery.  No more beeing marooned on the side of the road with no one to jump your battery!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of this solar-powered battery.  Maybe one day someone would go a big step further (this may be a dumb idea, I&#8217;m not a science genius) and put a solar panel on a car battery.  No more beeing marooned on the side of the road with no one to jump your battery!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dareka1</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-117936</link> <dc:creator>dareka1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:31:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-117936</guid> <description>Why stick them on each battery? Why not have it as a sleeve that you pop the battery into? That way you don&#039;t have to throw away the solar panel when the batter is finished, and it  won&#039;t damage the solar panel when you put it into the appliance.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why stick them on each battery? Why not have it as a sleeve that you pop the battery into? That way you don&#8217;t have to throw away the solar panel when the batter is finished, and it  won&#8217;t damage the solar panel when you put it into the appliance.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: gmoke</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-117907</link> <dc:creator>gmoke</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:56:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-117907</guid> <description>There is no reason to wrap the solar cells completely around the battery.  Sunlight comes from the South not the North.   I would also suggest that Karlsen start with AA cells rather than C cells as AAs are the most common batteries in use.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no reason to wrap the solar cells completely around the battery.  Sunlight comes from the South not the North.   I would also suggest that Karlsen start with AA cells rather than C cells as AAs are the most common batteries in use.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mahalie » Mithun</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-117904</link> <dc:creator>mahalie » Mithun</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:54:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-117904</guid> <description>Brilliant...and dare I say, obvious in retrospect. All batteries should be equipped like this!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant&#8230;and dare I say, obvious in retrospect. All batteries should be equipped like this!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Solar Charged Batteries Currently Impractical but Awesome Nonetheless &#187; The UberReview</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-117903</link> <dc:creator>Solar Charged Batteries Currently Impractical but Awesome Nonetheless &#187; The UberReview</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:45:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/#comment-117903</guid> <description>[...] and some major engineering, he can get them to charge more efficiently. [Notes from Knut via Inhabit, Oh Gizmo] For the latest info on the coolest gadgets, emerging technology and wired madness, [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and some major engineering, he can get them to charge more efficiently. [Notes from Knut via Inhabit, Oh Gizmo] For the latest info on the coolest gadgets, emerging technology and wired madness, [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 真正的太陽能充電池 &#124; TechNow.com.hk - web host by CommuniLink</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/02/18/suncat-solar-batteries-by-knut-karlsen/comment-page-1/#comment-117902</link> <dc:creator>真正的太陽能充電池 &#124; TechNow.com.hk - web host by CommuniLink</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:37:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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