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> <channel><title>Comments on: Is Boxed Water Better?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/</link> <description>Future-forward design for the world you inhabit</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:16:52 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: StructureHub</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-174058</link> <dc:creator>StructureHub</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:02:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-174058</guid> <description>At least they don&#039;t make the claim that boxed is good.  I wonder how many words similar to &#039;better&#039; were batted around . . .</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they don&#8217;t make the claim that boxed is good.  I wonder how many words similar to &#8216;better&#8217; were batted around . . .</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: smashinhabitat</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-144965</link> <dc:creator>smashinhabitat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-144965</guid> <description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s going to be easy to drink water directly from the box like you can do with a bottle. Plus it is a cuboid, bad for something you might carry around .</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going to be easy to drink water directly from the box like you can do with a bottle. Plus it is a cuboid, bad for something you might carry around .</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ash.</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-135697</link> <dc:creator>Ash.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:12:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-135697</guid> <description>Can you get boxed water shipped to your house?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you get boxed water shipped to your house?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: elowry723</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-124470</link> <dc:creator>elowry723</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:32:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-124470</guid> <description>The point is that single use containers have to go.  Regardless of material.When did we get away from the returnable bottles?  You just keep the bottles, take them back to the store, trade them in, and get your new case of whatever it is you drink.  Pretty simple and there isn\&#039;t any waste.  Even the cardboard box goes back to the manufacturer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that single use containers have to go.  Regardless of material.</p><p>When did we get away from the returnable bottles?  You just keep the bottles, take them back to the store, trade them in, and get your new case of whatever it is you drink.  Pretty simple and there isn\&#8217;t any waste.  Even the cardboard box goes back to the manufacturer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: nzroller</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-124046</link> <dc:creator>nzroller</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:15:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-124046</guid> <description>``the PET manufacturing process creates more waste than paper and emits 3 times more carbon dioxide. &#039;&#039;
Where do you source this information? How easy is it for Tetrapak packaging to become a raw material again?Honestly I doubt that heavy aluminium-coated paper (which is what tetra-pak is) is easier to recycle or more environmentally friendly than PET bottles, and they&#039;re definitely not reusable.Here in Sweden, plastic bottle recycling is upwards of 85% -- achieved by placing a deposit of 12 cents on each bottle sold: http://pantamera.se/pet.aspStill not good enough but a seemingly simple effective way to get people to recycle packaging.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the PET manufacturing process creates more waste than paper and emits 3 times more carbon dioxide. &#8221;<br
/> Where do you source this information? How easy is it for Tetrapak packaging to become a raw material again?</p><p>Honestly I doubt that heavy aluminium-coated paper (which is what tetra-pak is) is easier to recycle or more environmentally friendly than PET bottles, and they&#8217;re definitely not reusable.</p><p>Here in Sweden, plastic bottle recycling is upwards of 85% &#8212; achieved by placing a deposit of 12 cents on each bottle sold: <a
href="http://pantamera.se/pet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://pantamera.se/pet.asp</a></p><p>Still not good enough but a seemingly simple effective way to get people to recycle packaging.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: supachupa</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-123963</link> <dc:creator>supachupa</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:30:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-123963</guid> <description>The reason most people pay big money for bottled water is because of the image they perceive.  That\&#039;s why Gatorade is becoming \&quot;G\&quot; and why water bottles with nozzles are more popular.  It gives people the perception that they are being sporty.Boxed water doesn\&#039;t have that image.  Instead, it says \&quot;I care about the planet\&quot;.  So it is a clever marketing gimic to separate this brand from the others and nothing more.The amount of energy used to transport either boxed or bottled water alone is purely wasteful and excessive.  I agree with the others that simply carry along a refillable water bottle.There are many countries, however, where tap water is not safe to drink and so bottled water is a necessity in large cities (I would hope rainwater would be an option outside of the big cities).  If it is a fact that the vast majority of packaging is sent to the landfill, then other than changing people\&#039;s behaviors or the delivery method (how about a vending machine that refills your own supplied container?), the packaging should at least be something that is biodegradable and responsible.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason most people pay big money for bottled water is because of the image they perceive.  That\&#8217;s why Gatorade is becoming \&#8221;G\&#8221; and why water bottles with nozzles are more popular.  It gives people the perception that they are being sporty.</p><p>Boxed water doesn\&#8217;t have that image.  Instead, it says \&#8221;I care about the planet\&#8221;.  So it is a clever marketing gimic to separate this brand from the others and nothing more.</p><p>The amount of energy used to transport either boxed or bottled water alone is purely wasteful and excessive.  I agree with the others that simply carry along a refillable water bottle.</p><p>There are many countries, however, where tap water is not safe to drink and so bottled water is a necessity in large cities (I would hope rainwater would be an option outside of the big cities).  If it is a fact that the vast majority of packaging is sent to the landfill, then other than changing people\&#8217;s behaviors or the delivery method (how about a vending machine that refills your own supplied container?), the packaging should at least be something that is biodegradable and responsible.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SDHO</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-123929</link> <dc:creator>SDHO</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:45:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-123929</guid> <description>I think they realize this is hard-to-recycle material, but choose it all the same. The point (made by this post) is that when only 14% of bottles are recycled, it&#039;s important to address the impact of the other 86%.And I think that&#039;s legitimate, except who&#039;s going to buy boxed water? People who are concerned about the environmental impact of their designer water habit. I think it appeals most to the 14% who are already recycling.Stonyfield Farm made a similar decision when they &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stonyfield.com/EarthActions/Environmental%20Practices/EnvironmentalPackaging.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;switched from hard-to-recycle #2 yogurt containers to harder-yet-to-recycle #5 containers&lt;/a&gt;. That decision seem more justified, though, since it&#039;s a pragmatic way to deal with an institutional flaw (not accepting non-bottle plastics) instead of a personal, easy-to-fix flaw (not recycling super-easy-to-recycle plastic bottles).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they realize this is hard-to-recycle material, but choose it all the same. The point (made by this post) is that when only 14% of bottles are recycled, it&#8217;s important to address the impact of the other 86%.</p><p>And I think that&#8217;s legitimate, except who&#8217;s going to buy boxed water? People who are concerned about the environmental impact of their designer water habit. I think it appeals most to the 14% who are already recycling.</p><p>Stonyfield Farm made a similar decision when they <a
href="http://www.stonyfield.com/EarthActions/Environmental%20Practices/EnvironmentalPackaging.cfm" rel="nofollow">switched from hard-to-recycle #2 yogurt containers to harder-yet-to-recycle #5 containers</a>. That decision seem more justified, though, since it&#8217;s a pragmatic way to deal with an institutional flaw (not accepting non-bottle plastics) instead of a personal, easy-to-fix flaw (not recycling super-easy-to-recycle plastic bottles).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ralphe</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-123748</link> <dc:creator>ralphe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:47:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-123748</guid> <description>I have a half liter and a one liter thermos and a brita filter, keep them all in the refrigerator. Whether I\&#039;m biking or driving I\&#039;ve always got cold water at hand. Why anyone would want to throw their money away on single use products that poison the earth and themselves is a mystery to me. Why do we allow marketing scammers without souls dictate what is allegedly \&quot;cool\&quot;?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a half liter and a one liter thermos and a brita filter, keep them all in the refrigerator. Whether I\&#8217;m biking or driving I\&#8217;ve always got cold water at hand. Why anyone would want to throw their money away on single use products that poison the earth and themselves is a mystery to me. Why do we allow marketing scammers without souls dictate what is allegedly \&#8221;cool\&#8221;?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: lnewskirt</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-123555</link> <dc:creator>lnewskirt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:02:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-123555</guid> <description>I agree with Andrew.....tetra paks contain thin layers of plastic, paper and metal and are extremely hard to recycle.  Good attempt, but we at least have recycling systems set up for plastic water bottles and this option really just has to go to the landfill.  Tough to weigh the environmental benefits considering materials, manufacturing AND end of life.  Really no good replacement for the good ol&#039; durable water bottle and drinking out of the tap!  That&#039;s unanimous.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Andrew&#8230;..tetra paks contain thin layers of plastic, paper and metal and are extremely hard to recycle.  Good attempt, but we at least have recycling systems set up for plastic water bottles and this option really just has to go to the landfill.  Tough to weigh the environmental benefits considering materials, manufacturing AND end of life.  Really no good replacement for the good ol&#8217; durable water bottle and drinking out of the tap!  That&#8217;s unanimous.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeremy</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-123554</link> <dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:54:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-123554</guid> <description>Sure, I guess it&#039;s better than a plastic bottle, but just filling up a bottle from the tap is so much better again that it&#039;s hard to get excited. Nice packaging though.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I guess it&#8217;s better than a plastic bottle, but just filling up a bottle from the tap is so much better again that it&#8217;s hard to get excited. Nice packaging though.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SIDD</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-123549</link> <dc:creator>SIDD</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:57:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-123549</guid> <description>A little forethought goes a long way.There will always be a market for single-serve beverages, whether they be water or anything else, so reducing the harm in the manufacture and distribution of those products is something we should support... but in the end, smart people should simply have their own water on-hand.Buy a reusable bottle and keep it filled. Simple.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little forethought goes a long way.</p><p>There will always be a market for single-serve beverages, whether they be water or anything else, so reducing the harm in the manufacture and distribution of those products is something we should support&#8230; but in the end, smart people should simply have their own water on-hand.</p><p>Buy a reusable bottle and keep it filled. Simple.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Inamorata</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-123547</link> <dc:creator>Inamorata</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:53:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-123547</guid> <description>I agree that shippin water is silly, but if people are going to buy and dispose bottles of water anyway, isn&#039;t it better to buy boxed? I think it&#039;s a much better alternative to bottled water.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that shippin water is silly, but if people are going to buy and dispose bottles of water anyway, isn&#8217;t it better to buy boxed? I think it&#8217;s a much better alternative to bottled water.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: andrewstone</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-123514</link> <dc:creator>andrewstone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:38:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-123514</guid> <description>In my area milk cartons and any box like it is not recyclable.  Why?  Because the paper has bits of metal in it.  If this is the same type of carton then it is not recyclable.  Worse than plastic in my book.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my area milk cartons and any box like it is not recyclable.  Why?  Because the paper has bits of metal in it.  If this is the same type of carton then it is not recyclable.  Worse than plastic in my book.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jessiejchuang</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-123505</link> <dc:creator>jessiejchuang</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:15:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-123505</guid> <description>Now the question is, where did the water come from?  Many ecological problems have already risen due to the massive ground water pumping... which links directly to water privatization, which also leads to social and economical poverty in places such as India.  Water is not a profit.  Selling water should be stopped all together in the first place.It says &quot;the company will donate 20% of profits to world water relief foundations&quot;  This seems speculative.  80% of the profit still goes to the company.  Regardless of its intention, this still reminds me strongly of companies such as Vivendi, Nestle, and Coca-Cola.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the question is, where did the water come from?  Many ecological problems have already risen due to the massive ground water pumping&#8230; which links directly to water privatization, which also leads to social and economical poverty in places such as India.  Water is not a profit.  Selling water should be stopped all together in the first place.</p><p>It says &#8220;the company will donate 20% of profits to world water relief foundations&#8221;  This seems speculative.  80% of the profit still goes to the company.  Regardless of its intention, this still reminds me strongly of companies such as Vivendi, Nestle, and Coca-Cola.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nozomi</title><link>http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/04/02/is-boxed-water-better/comment-page-1/#comment-123479</link> <dc:creator>Nozomi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:57:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitat.com/?p=22658#comment-123479</guid> <description>While I imagine it&#039;s better than the scourge of plastic bottles, I tend to go with just filling my sigg with water from the tap.  Or in the summer, when my water tastes like farm run-off, I run it through a brita filter and then put it in my sigg.  I really don&#039;t understand how this is so impossible for everyone.  It doesn&#039;t even have to be an overpriced sigg!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I imagine it&#8217;s better than the scourge of plastic bottles, I tend to go with just filling my sigg with water from the tap.  Or in the summer, when my water tastes like farm run-off, I run it through a brita filter and then put it in my sigg.  I really don&#8217;t understand how this is so impossible for everyone.  It doesn&#8217;t even have to be an overpriced sigg!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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