Comments on: Hybrid Squared: Ingenious Energy-Generating Bike Rental System

By: marmkid

marmkid — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:48:18 +0000

i love how all we get are negative responses to someone’s idea without actually offering any constructive criticism to help make an idea better

rather than give the guy some credit for an idea, all that anyone ever throws out is “Do the Math”

perhaps if it is so incredibly hard to pedal a bike and generate any power, maybe helping to find a solution that allows this problem to be fixed? Unless everyone is so incredibly positive that there will never be a way to produce energy from a bicycle at all…ever? I somehow doubt that

If any energy at all is produced, this idea would be a success. He isnt claiming to eliminate the need for gas in the world
It is a way that potentially could chip away at the amount of gas needed

Rather than bashing him for not having a working model to prove his idea, help improve it?

Architects can be so cynical at times, and just seem to want to point out any flaw anywhere

By: Cassady

Cassady — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:41:56 +0000

There are some genuinely useful things designers can do like making medium density living more pleasant, but this idea makes sending energy down from space with lasers look sensible. Climate change is going to be an expensive enough problem with out supporting designers egos along the way.

By: Anarch

Anarch — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:33:20 +0000

Hi there

Re the following:

The ’skeptics’ here are correct. If you do the science and the math there is no way that human power can generate appreciable excess energy on a bike. The energy required to move the bike is all that a human is going to be willing to generate.

As one poster said, the same money would be far more beneficial in solar cells. The generate energy for free. They do not require food being fed to humans to get it.

On another note, The amount of money required for food calories (consumer cost) to pedal a bicycle a mile is about 150 times as much as the amount of money (consumer cost) required to provide electricity to power a bicycle a mile. DO THE MATH !

HMMMM…THE MATH…

One of the many problems we have is the sad state of so-called economics (he con oh me?) where costs are hidden by the sad state of those who still think of the natural world as ‘resources’ which do not come at a cost or the savings involved in intangibles. What for instance is the economic benefit of the cyclist? Reduced costs to the health system? Increased benefit to the workplace as the cyclist arrives with an oxygenated body instead of a sluggish and possibly aggressive attitude after driving in trafic? Reduced greenhouse footprint by not driving? Reduced long term costs to the national health system due to inceased health over many years? What is the cost of the electricity above used to power the bicycle? Increased greenhouse footprint? Increased costs associated with mining and transporting the coal burnt to generate the electricity? Increased costs in the transport of the electricity to the user? What of the cost of the ‘food calories’? If vegetable from the supermarket then the oxygen produced by the plant during its lifespan? The fuel costs in growing, processing, transporting the food to the consumer? If vegetable from the backyard, what cost savings in reduced transport, processing etc? And the cost of the bicycle itself – metal, plastic, oils, synthetic tyres? Costs over the lifespan of the bicycle itself? Costs associated with eventual disposal, or savings after eventual recycling?
The math is getting to be quite a complex equation.

By: nacoran

nacoran — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:50:26 +0000

If it only generated power from regenerative brakes it wouldn’t be too bad, but I don’t want to have to pedal harder to go where I want to go. If they put some solar panels up above the bike racks and added power assist to the bikes it might be a useful low energy/lower infrastructure solution. The trick isn’t, at least for reducing traffic, to get rid of the long haul driver, but giving people an option other than getting back into their cars for the medium and short trips that are a little too long for walking.

By: boydil3

boydil3 — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:55:33 +0000

The “designer” has obviously never ridden a bicycle with regenerative braking. This wonderful design will never make it past the dreaming stages of the typical airhead.

By: johnny36544

johnny36544 — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:46:26 +0000

As one poster said, the same money would be far more beneficial in solar cells. The generate energy for free. They do not require food being fed to humans to get it.

By: chrisp68

chrisp68 — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:18:03 +0000

Well said rg and even better rharris. Apparently designers are like children playing engineers with free energy (and money) What NEEDS to happen is to hook up a stationary bike to peoples tv’s. That way the only way to watch tv is to exercise. No pedal power, no Jerry Springer!

By: woodypounder

woodypounder — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:23:11 +0000

You sceptics are the ones who will die first when the climate starts to change and you’re too late to adapt.

Darwinian dunces.

By: rharris115

rharris115 — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:40:45 +0000

This is just silly. Perhaps they could power the buses with hamster cages!

By: rgwilliams

rgwilliams — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:24:20 +0000

bad design that won’t work. this energy, with the exception of braking energy, isn’t free. riding these bikes will be much harder if they are going to generate any significant energy. the average human power output is around 150 watts, for the cost of adding the generator and the ultracapcitor banks to the bikes, plus the power electronics to transfer the stored energy to the grid, you could buy a solar panel and grid tie inverter that produce more power and operates whenever there is sunlight.

designers should learn some engineering before they pretend to be engineers.

By: mnmdesignlab

mnmdesignlab — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:44:59 +0000

Nice design and features!